The last time you said that you were wrong. When players want something THEY ACTUALLY WANT IT and when delivered they will LOVE IT!
Player housing could be anything… a small house, a tower, a castle, a fortress…
ON AZEROTH. Our HOME. Not some different planet.
Go big and give us GUILD HALLS / GUILD HOUSING and let our guilds work on building up levels of things to advance our GUILD HALL! Players would eat this up and it would be unique to WoW. Don’t do it like another game does it. Do it Warcraft style. We like grinding and collecting and showing off our stuff. We like leveling bars and things like that to watch our progress each day.
I still think they’ll Corrupt-a-Wish housing. It’ll end up being gated, expensive, only some apartment in Org/Stormwind and we won’t be able to decorate. Or if we do, decos will only drop from PvP and Mythic raids.
At this point, I’m not sure I trust them with housing.
Not saying I wouldn’t want it, just that it’ll never be done correctly.
They need to look at their competitors, see what’s working for them, an create a version of their own. Right now the biggest competitor for WoW is FFXIV and what do they have? Player housing. Yes, it’s expensive (I don’t have a house yet) but with a good grind for gold they’re obtainable. And other people can visit your house. The idea was touched on with Garrisons…but one of the biggest problems was them being so insular. Each Garrison was it’s own instance and you could only visit another Garrison if you were in a group and even then you can only visit the group leader’s Garrison. The idea of Garrisons needs to be expanded upon to create a less-insular experience.
You forgot to mention that FF14 has a limited quantity of housing…so if there are none for sale you just don’t get a house. I keep hearing everyone talking about how great the housing is…but none of the people I know actually have a house
Or ESO, where houses are unlimited in supply but some are limited to premium (store) currency. If WoW did it…I would guess they would follow the ESOs path because it is more profitable
I’d be fine with guild halls but not personal housing. They should also do the guild halls like they did artifact weapons in that eventually a guild can upgrade every building instead of choosing only the optimal buildings (WoD).
You should earn blueprints and progress from raids dungeons PvP and maybe callings
Depends on how they do it. If everyone gets a base model that might be ok, if it’s limited to whales with 50million gold, like FF, it would be disappointing, for me at least.
Just read some article about people using bots in that other game to beat others to the available housing when it comes up, sounds like a toxic feature if that’s how it plays out.
The problem with guild halls for me is that so many people have 1 person guilds - which shouldn’t be a thing - so that degenerate game play will be times 1000 just so one player can have a home.
This is true. They are limited. And while something like that can make the ones who have player housing appreciate it more…it is annoying…but I also play the Sims so I can decorate a house there
Never said it was perfect…but it is a better system than the Garrisons. If it weren’t for the fact that I have the Sims to build and decorate houses in I’d be camping for a house in FFXIV.
We’ll just get Garrison 2.0 if they do that. Blizzard is VERY against making content that doesn’t tie directly into the core gameplay loop of the current expansion, and Housing needs to be… not that.
No, this is one thing that they need to just copy another game on. Or at least copy the basics. A game that’s not Skyrim btw. That’s the most generic uncreative implementation of a Housing system I’ve ever seen.
FWIW, I still believe he said that as a general statement aimed at the larger community, rather than aimed at the individual asking the question. In the context of the larger community, yeah, the concept of Classic is a gimmick to check out for a week then never log back into because its old and in many ways objectively bad. It’s a niche interest for long-term play and at this point is mostly serving as a distraction from Retail during a content lull and not much else.
But he probably did underestimate that niche community, even so. And his attempt to explain the statement literally just doubled down on the exact same meaning but with more words, which was… laughable.
As much as I personally would like a good Housing system, my experience with it in other games is that outside of the RP community, it ends up getting played with heavily for like a week or two when a player first decides to jump into it. But then they get it set up how they want, admire it for a day, and then abandon the feature altogether.
In a game like WoW that’s functioned without it for 17 years and has some players actively against it because they know it’ll cost endgame content in whatever patch/xpack its added in, I honestly don’t know that it would be particularly successful or worth the development time.
Too many people really just like the idea but won’t interact with it enough to be worthwhile.
Of course if they do add it I’ll be there.
PS: I’m fine with Guild Housing, but honestly it needs to be the same core system as Player Housing to get the most bang for the buck - Not a separate “Hall” thing. If they want to add some additional elements on top, fine, as long as it’s more of an achievement showcase kind of thing and not something granting actual bonuses normal players can’t get. I’m against anything that makes Guiids feel mandatory. They’re social constructs and don’t need to be anything more.
You do understand FF14 has one of the most toxic housing systems right? It forces people to sit in one spot for upwards of 14 hours hoping for a chance at a house and someone can just relocate to the plot you’re trying to buy anyways.
Even with the new lottery system in place it still doesn’t fix the fact theres only so many houses for the rather large playerbase. If you want to point to a housing system that works you need to stop pointing to FF14 because it is vastly flawed in how you obtain a house. The customization is nice but the acquisition process is absolutely crap.
