There is that “turtle” label applied once again to “PVP in a PVP BG”
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No, a turtle is when you take a match that could last 8-10 minutes for 3k honor, and force it to go as long as possible, which the goal of the alliance making zero honor over an hour long match.
In the end you get substantially less honor yourself because you might make slightly more in an hour long match… but then your’re only playing one match an hour.
But hey, the horde is petty and can’t let the alliance make any honor just out of spite for long queue times, which the horde themsellves literally cause every time they force turtle.
Yep, cry me a river hordies.
You think 20 min queue is bad? give it a month, you’ll be up to HOURS!
Re-roll if you like pvp so much, you certainly enjoyed running the servers before the battlegrounds hit, time to pay the piper.
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I often gank between queues to find pvp esp since they won’t fight in the BGs. My server is 60% alliance but with so many bored horde my first choice of WPL had at least 10 horde ganking alliance. So, I went to Felwood to find alliance, which I found, and I also found more horde ganking. It is great to find the world pvp coming back as I love world pvp!
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@the number of people thinking “just let the match be 10 minutes and you won’t have the problem”… 
It’s not the same rewards. Winning gives more rep/honor per hour. The only people wanting the games to be fast are alliance because they win every time.
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Correct, it’s Blizzard’s fault by giving one faction substantially better racial traits than the other.
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Man… if only there was a site of various comments, a forum if you will, that stated this very issue and how much worse it would get.
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I simplified my example to make it so even the most simple of minds could comprehend it.
I see I needed to simplify it even further… 
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Its not hard to figure out that more games per hour = more rep/honor than 1 game per hour.
So the obvious answer from what I can tell from other post is horde just stand in the tunnel and let alliance win in 7-8 mins and repeat. If you try you are causing a turtle where you may actually win.
The queue time is the same no matter what server you’re on.
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what he said. you shouldn’t have MCd people off the boat. Now they wish you suffer.
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Oh no pvp happened on a pvp server
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So what you are saying is to increase ones pvp rank, one must avoid actual pvp interaction in av and intentionally lose? What fun Classic is for the min/max mindset.
Tell me again why you want this pvp gear in the first place - to smack around bosses inside an instance?
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I get your point, but if I make 6.5k honor in 24 minutes that is better than two games because I have to wait 17 minutes between games. Your math is crap when applied to the situation.
No need to be smug, take the L
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You chose the faction that can level 1-45 and travel between continents without flagging for pvp.
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We can play both factions. If you prefer a faster BG queue time, just hop onto your Alliance character 
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Well you have to kill some NPC’s, just like PvE.
Winning is actually pretty simple, just get the alliance to dismount and you win in a match that’s 5 minutes longer.
We just won our last match in 20 minutes…4500+ honor.
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You’re waiting because your faction decides to make you wait- this, like every other community problem, is one of the making of the Horde, and can be solved by the Horde.
You wouldn’t be waiting so long, and thus would be getting better honour, if you were focused on topping honour and having a quick match.
Now- if you want to turtle, nothing will stop you- but you need to realize that if turtling is going to be the Horde meta, then long queues are going to be the result.
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He’s used to taking the loss, he tries to lose.