I don’t like the way blizzard is bending-over for the 0.1% raiders, because they obviously don’t represent the majority of players.
But anything that gets more people into the game at this point is a good thing. I wouldn’t mind WoW on console either. My brother plays D4 on console. If this is what it takes to get him into WoW also, then that’s fantastic.
I just think that if you are going to use a one-button auto-rotation, you should expect “good enough” performance at best. If people end up topping charts using this, then it will upend the whole game.
PUGs clear Heroic raid and do minimum half of Mythic raid. People get kicked for performance in those modes.
PUGs also clear M+ above levels that keystone depletion stops being a thing, and if you’re worse than a drinking bird, it’s more efficient to boot you and start over.
Pretending that only 60 people in the world do the top end content is intellectually dishonest.
This is quite literally a litmus test for whether or not you are better than a drinking bird. Even lower tier content will see people getting kicked for that.
Sure, but Blizz won’t and aren’t responsible for building for that. Anyone not seeing the world’s biggest “AT YOUR OWN RISK” sign doing anything beyond heroic dungeons (on the dungeon/raid axis) with randos as of TWW where delves exist isn’t paying attention.
What one can try to do and where WoW systemically expects you can be very different places. Ask anyone still complaining about being declined from M+ PUGs after delves were released, those poor souls.
“Play with friends or play alone” has been the WoW PVE whispered battlecry since delves and story mode came in, and that’s perfectly ok. That fits with rotation assist like a glove.
There’s zero chance it’ll be competitive. No shot it can correctly make context calls like when to AoE vs ST, when to prioritize one mob among several, or know when to hold cooldowns, or to plan around future mechanics like needing to move.
That being said, for the average person I see in LFR it’ll probably be a pretty significant step up, just because even a 20% increased GCD will STILL give them a significant increase in APM.
What are you talking about? Blizzard built the whole game. They are responsible for everything in it, including the social structures that arise as a necessity to beat it. Blizzard made it so that grouping is mandatory to complete the content, so Blizzard is responsible for what happens in groups.
Even Blizzard thinks they are responsible for what happens in groups, otherwise they wouldn’t literally have a policy that bans you for negatively affecting groups.
I get what you’re saying, but I see them fulfilling this by putting in delves, follower dungeons and story mode, not by encouraging more heroic raid PUGs. The people that don’t see then where the path of best fit for their lives and schedules are, who shoot over their heads and hold blizzard responsible for telling them they belong in a mode where premade groups are kicking them, cannot be helped.
Blizz can’t entitle you to a lane of content they don’t themselves populate the group for. They CAN add lanes. Thats what they did with delves, story mode and to a different extent follower dungeons.
Anyway, I think we will just have to agree to disagree on this. Have a nice day!
WHAT!? I have had a 1 Button Rotation Macro on my Affly lock since Vanilla. But not because Im lazy. Its so I can bind all my dots to 1 button. I even have a timer incorporated into the script to allow for GCD and castable dots.
This is NOTHING NEW. Its been in the game since vanilla. We will now just have a UI to do it in instead of having to google how to make the Macro. Its called a Cast Sequence Macro
Its not new. Its in the game NOW! Please tell me you knew this?
Im one who loves banging lots of keys, but Im absolutely gonna set up a side key to try this out.
I dont think I’ll use it much because sometimes I like to spam two spells over and over …Hand of Gul’dan / Shadow Bolt, for example…not because its great DPS or anything, but because I love firing off Hand of Gul’dan
Blizzard quite literally is telling people they belong in a mode where premade groups are kicking them with the new quest that shunts people in M+ when they complete Delves.
Not that that has anything to do with anything. Your entire tangent about single player nonsense isn’t relevant because you can’t get kicked out of solo content.
The issue is that this single button rotation creates an empirically measurable, minimum acceptable performance and it will exist in all modes. Everyone who is not meeting that minimum acceptable performance which is set by Blizzard’s AI will be instantly kicked out of that mode by the group leader. Despite Ion explicitly saying he doesn’t want the tool to be used as “Turn on AI or I’m kicking you”, that is the only way it will be used in group content.
The elitists have won. There is now a minimum acceptable performance level, set by Blizzard itself.
It’ll be interesting to see the DPS difference. I can imagine classes with fairly simple priorities and not a whole lot of instants actually not doing too terribly with it. Destro ST comes to mind since you’re hardcasting basically everything in a patchwerk environment except for Conflag and Wither so it’s not going to feel the increased GCD as much as Demo would. (Destro ST is already bad, but that’s neither here not there).
I wonder how it’d be able to execute stuff like Demos opener which will be probably impossible with a longer GCD unless the GCD increase is based off your current GCD (and you have a billion % haste).
seems like thats far more than enough to keep it from ever being competitive all by itself…which then begs the question, why is the OP whining about something that has no bearing on end game at all…but WiLL help players learn to play their spec better when they know what comes next instead of having to guess.
As a tank main who WILL ABSOLUTELY be one-buttoning many deep DPS alts, there is no way this system can do the truly reactive role of tanking or healing and that is absolutely ok…
Unless… it taps into the same logic that fuels follower tanking. Remember, there is a goal to have our own alts populate our followers eventually so it won’t just be limited to captain pallytank of team default-followers!
Naah I still don’t think rotation assist will do tanking and especially healing!
I think the auto-rotation will be pretty substandard as a whole, so if we’re being serious about how this will impact the culture as a whole, it’ll probably be more common to flame people for playing like they’ve got auto-rotation on than asking them to turn it on.
There always was though, “Tank DPS” is a very common insult.
I dunno. I think there’s discussion to be had like “hiding” the feature in accessibility/advanced features so it’s not immediately apparent to new players that there is an auto-rotation feature there. But I don’t think it’s going to fundamentally change anything besides having more competent teammates in LFR and normal/heroic dungeons.
