You have stolen a game from me, please return my property to me

From this thread -

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/moderation-note-everyone-is-free-to-post-any-feedback-they-have-about-the-game-itself-but-direct-insults-against-the-developers-are-not-tolerated-here/18613?u=kingomelette-1782

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You can still play the game with the old client. Simply install the game from the original media or an archived copy of the installation files you downloaded from Blizzard.

If you were careless with your CD keys, you can log into your Blizzard account and look them up. Make sure to write down (or type) the codes in a safe place. You can then use those codes during the Install process.

You can even apply updates to that installation up to 1.29.

Now, since BatlleNet is deprecated for these earlier versions of WC3, you are going to be restricted to LAN play if you want to play games with friends. In the past, and maybe again in the near future, there are ways of configuring WC3 such that you can play the game online using an alternative matchmaking server. For example, a lot of players used W3Arena or NetEase to play ladder matches.

If you do a google or YouTube Search for HowTo you will find a lot of information regarding these set up going back many years.

Good Luck & Have Fun

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I bought two copies of this game and since game is now working on MacOs again - from my side great news. My daughter likes to play it too. Regarding the changes in the Campaign, it would be better not to change thigs at all:

  • the new culling mission is worse than old one + arthas becomes overpowered earlier (ring of regeneration, robe of the magi can be get by killing MalGanis seveal times)
  • mission 5 of the huma campaign has become too easy on hard - the lich doesn’t attack anymore.

If they would redesign all missions OK - but changing only a part of them feels like incomplete job. From this perspective I agree with people that Blizzard marketed much more than players actually get. Typical modern approach - sucking money from people for getting close to nothing (unless OS support is your primary concern). Its the same story as it happened to the Need for Speed series - first Need for Speed, Porchee (V) is stil lightyears ahead from crap they are selling today.

You want kingomelette to respond to that XD?

(I’m just joking MONZUN I’m putting words in his mouth about something he’s not even talking about.)

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More of a Simpsons vaporwave fan myself.

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hahaha sorry didn’t notice this. i had to do some rl stuff and thus i didn’t followed all his troll answers :smiley: i only read the last thing he wrote about me and directly answered to that :smiley:
also he wants those bumps up ?!? what is he thinking those will give him… exactly, ntohing but a ban and if he circumvents the ban by creating another account he will get a hardware ban or ip ban if he has a static ip adress. its that easy

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Do you know of a reliable place where i can find some of these patches? I’ve installed the game with the discs and managed to get it to run in 1080p but i’m still running the base version.

xhttps://gaming-tools.com/warcraft-3/patches/

Can confirm these work except maybe for some of the very oldest patches.

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Yes, i want my original games back, not this trash.

If it’s not happening, i would like a refund for my ROC and TFT.

That is not true, and not how software purchases work. When you bought the game it is your property, the license belongs to Blizzard. Basically the exact opposite of what you said.

Go ahead, good luck finding a lawyer that’ll accept a lost cause

That is not true, and not how software purchases work. When you bought the game it is your property, the license belongs to Blizzard. Basically the exact opposite of what you said.

This is just not how it works. You do not own anything but the installation media (in the case of physical). You are granted a license to use the software on that media, which can be revoked at any time, for any reason, at the company’s sole discretion. This is what allows companies to ban you from their platform/strip you of your game licenses.

You only purchase the permission to use the software; not the right, and not the software itself.

The only exception(s) to this are older games where the physical media contains the entire game (i.e. No external license validation).

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Banning someone from an online service is different than not letting you use their software. Nobody can come to your house and make you uninstall a product they sold you from your computer.

You need to re-read TOS. There is nothing guaranteeing that the network servers will remain online indefinitely. There is usually verbiage that the on-line experience will change.

Bottom line - it’s not your “property”. You’re not even paying a subscription to use it. You’re accessing it at the pleasure of Blizz.

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Banning someone from an online service is different than not letting you use their software. Nobody can come to you house and make you uninstall a product they sold you from their computer.

You are correct, but they can ban you from authentication servers and remove access to some or even all features of that product. No one can stop you from installing the software, but what you can do with it can certainly be controlled. The only way around this is local (offline) validation of licenses, which aren’t really a thing anymore (read: very rare).

The point still stands that you do not own software that you buy.

uhm what ? i think you are making a small mistake here…

you need to diversify between (lets take a retail game) the packaging, the discs, all stuff included in paper form.

then the game itself

and then the license to play that game.

the packging including all stuff belongs to you if you purchase a retail game

the game itself belongs to blizzard. it is their property. they have trademarks and copyrights on it !

the license to play the game belongs to you once you accept!!! the EULA but all stuff included in the EULA can be used against you. EULA’s usually have passages included that tell you that the company can take your right to play that particular game away from you without even notifying you and once you accept that EULA and start playing that particular game they have the contractual right to do as they please.

obviously this would never be a smart thing to do as customers ofc can fight back by doing what they did after wc3reforged release. IT might be very negative PR for that particular company who does something like that, but its still their right to do this.

so infact, it was their right to take away wc3classic from every single person and turn it into reforged. i know that most ppl are angry about that and i understand this from an emotional point of view, but according to law blizzard did everything right (let aside all emotions)

right ofc no one can do this and thus, you still can play wc3classic if you have the original discs. as long as the game is completely offline and doesn’t need any authentication at all with any onlineservice, they can’t ban you from playing it… but besides that they can do whatever they want.

those times back in the day when games weren’t forced to be authenticated online at all were the only times when people could actually play those games without any restrictions. those times are long gone and they will never come back :wink:

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