Warcraft III Reforged is one of the biggest gaming disappointments I can remember. Graphically, it looks like a game that came out 10 years ago, maybe worse. Actually yes, Dota 2, looked better than this game when it released and that was about 10 years ago. When you compare the graphics to something like Diablo 2 Resurrected, you can see that Blizzard was capable of making great games, but for some reason, Warcraft III was disrespected and treated like a piece of garbage. It had so much potential and it was all just ruined.
Once Microsoft is in charge, does anyone think that they will have a competent team remake the game properly and give it the respect it deserves? I am hopeful. This is a great day for gaming and for the first time in a long time, I am eagerly awaiting what’s next for Warcraft as an RTS and also StarCraft.
Well at the very minimum, MS doesn’t have as bad of a rep, so they’ll at least clean up Activision’s management. Whether this means anything good for Warcraft III or not remains to be seen, but it is almost certainly a good thing for Blizzard games in general.
I think MS really wants to save a sinking ship and the lucrative IPs that come with doing so.
MS is one of the most quality company of gaming. Age of Empires Definitive Edition (1, 2 and 3) just show how good and how much respect they have for their users. Good games, updating it and adding more expansions. Divided client ofc for those ones who want the old game…
I am not sure if they will fix W3R, it can happen (cuz W3R has a really big potential), even a Warcraft 4 is now possible. But anyway in the short time, nothing will change. We will see big changes 1 year later.
MS can’t change the new expansion of WoW or Overwatch 2 which is practically alredy developed. But the next ones (talking about all IPs) can be a really good change)
extremely disagree. The problem is not the graphics (or rather, it is for some chromatic details), but that it is only a very rich reskin with inaccurate mechanics for the cornerstones of the game (idclan system, for example).
This is true. W3R deserves respect, and frankly Microsoft was one of the biggest remastered idols when it came to the work done on Age of Empire Definitive Edition.
But I believe that Microsoft’s gain in managing W3R will be that of reputation. it would create the same effect as the Sonic movie: it’s an extremely mundane movie, but it grossed very well because people enjoyed the rebirth of a movie that could have been terribly bad. Even W3R “R” could be a real economic deal, if the intention is to do justice to an epochal disaster born of Activision’s stakes in saving on the project.
The graphics are HORRIBLE, u cant defend those graphics after see 2018 blizzcon gameplay and quenching mod graphics created by community. The graphics should be redone totally.
Ofc and as I said, divide the game with the old client and new one, (this last one must have 60 fps animation, really good graphics like quenching o blizzcon 2018 gameplay) and the new tournaments and profiles.
well, there were grander plans at one point, but budget cuts mean they didn’t have enough staff to do more than what, as you said, amounts to a higher res reskin.
Ah, but here we confuse graphics and direction. by better graphics I mean the modeling of individual heroes, which is also done way better than the simplicity of WoW, but only in terms of modeling. The real problem, however, is the rest: Interface, some area of the world not up to modeling and above all a frightening saving in the animations of the cutscene. It is impossible and above all a false advertising not to give the same display quality. But we’re not here to say what went wrong on W3R, but what it should need.
Frankly, it should simply go back to fulfilling its unfulfilled promise in that Blizzcon: better exposures, real remakes and care in historical mechanics. Microsoft is a veteran of the Age of Empires, so our expectations are much higher than the Activision management.
W3R was poised to be very successful. There was a huge number of refunds due to the failiure to deliver even all of the original feautres of the game. You can be sure that war3 esports would not have ended had they not mucked it up. Hopefully somebody at MS will look at the pre-sales numbers (i.e., ignoring the eventual refunds) and see that making it up to the fans could be financially worthwhile.
I think it is worthwhile regardless of immediate monetary benefit. I am sure I would have bought Diablo 2 if Reforged had been a success, even though I have never really had any interest in the Diablo series. I understand I may be in the minority, but I am sure there are others who haven’t purchased anything Activision/Blizzard related because of all the blunders.
the thing is that if they used another engine, making the custom maps compatible would be difficult. that would break a lot of custom maps, making the community annoyed.
They’re partly the reason why the game was successful in the first place. The fact that people could use the same tools the devs used to make the campaign was huge at the time. It gave us tons of new campaigns, custom games, ladder maps & adjusted versions of existing ones that even ended up being adopted officially. The custom map community has never been irrelevant, nor will it become irrelevant.
it legit would be a drop in the bucket monetary wise to just tell Samwise Didier (og art style and also did starcraft 1 and its remaster hence why it looks way better), to supervise a redoing of all reforged assets in HD and this time make them proper.
I’m pretty sure the majority of the community would be supportive of dedicating some time fixing their reforged maps graphically wise in exchange for actually wc3 looking assets instead of what we have…
Blizzard doesn’t need Microsoft to ship a good remake. They already can do good remakes.
Diablo 2 Ressurected shows what they are already capable of even without MS acquisition.
War3 won’t be remade again though, that ship has sailed and there is no real money or faith in the brand after this fiasco. MS would be foolish to put money into WC3 again instead of outright investing in something new and properly appealing to the masses.
Fans want a good WC3, but also need to realize Microsoft did not buy Activision Blizzard for $68+ billion dollars because of Warcraft 3 fans.
They have done this already in the past with Age of Empires 2 HD and Age of Empires Definitive Edition, so yes, it is possible they do a new remake/invest resources.
You have to remember the Xbox gaming model is vastly different than the traditional AAA gaming model, they are based off Gamepass which means they want niche communities to cater to as that brings new subscribers instead of 5000 copies of the same game (like modern companies) as that brings the same audience all the time.
Think of it like Netflix or Amazon Prime, etc. Amazon Prime financed Vinland Saga (the anime) who woulda thought that an anime similar to Berserk would get a high quality animation? it was only done cause of Prime $$$
I mean yes, this is technically true. But they cut W3R’s budget for no apparent reason and that played a big role on why it fell apart.
While we would like to believe it, it isn’t because of incompetence on the dev team’s part, it is because Activision didn’t care enough about the project to fully fund it.
To be fair Blizzard was at fault here as well, whose idea was to hire a different art director for the remake? That wasn’t really Activision but management issues. Whatever all in the past now let’s hope at some point they revisit the game like Aoe 2 definitive edition.
warcraft 3 reforged is not a remake, it is an enhanced remaster. new textures have been pasted on top of the old models to make them look better. warcraft 3 reforged was plagued with bugs that made players sell out.