Why did they not remake WC1 or WC2 first?

Admittedly, I have never actually played WC1 or WC2. But if they remade them, I would. I tried to play them, but they were so outdated, I just gave up.

WC3 is still very much playable, in my opinion.

The only reason I could think of obviously is demand. With WC3 Reforged, they can connect it to WoW more, and get more buys. I’m not sure if they could have done the same with WC1 or WC2.

Anyways, if WC3 Reforged is a hit, I hope Blizzard considers remaking WC1 and WC2 (at least story campaign modes). It’d be huge if those games had good dialogues and cut scenes.

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Another reason and something that they actually explained themselves: The first too games were too old and would have been had to to remade from scratch = too much work (or in other words not willing to put enough resources to remake them)

xhttps://kotaku.com/blizzard-wont-remaster-old-warcraft-games-because-theyr-1788675948

Simply “remastering” them would not have been enough, to meet current day standards pretty much everything would have had to be redone, starting from game-engine, gameplay, story/lore, missions, maps, soundtrack, create cutscenes from scratch…just everything…

With Warcraft III they ofc got away with much less work and its also the game that really drove Warcraft into success and also set the foundations for World of Warcraft

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theres no competitive scene for wc2 multiplayer with people live streaming like with wc3, plus the story wasnt even that fully developed for those games

If blizz could add to the editor the war1 and war2 specific heroes and unit variations.

The only things the editor is missing is the oil resource and oil building, the oil gathering ship peons, the squad units, the stealth water units the submarine and the rock turtle, the death knight death and decay aoe spell or was it the invincible spell?

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I understand for War1 but War2 is basically Starcraft gameplay, what it led to, and could be enjoyable even today, but well there is the esport/streaming aspect which is missing for War2.

warcraft 1 and 2 is ancient. they would need to remake everything except for the sound track, and maybe the movies.

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xhttps://www.mmo-champion.com/content/8179-Warcraft-III-Reforged-Interview-How-Women-Came-to-Rule-the-World-of-Warcraft-DLC

  • Warcraft III was selected to be reforged first over the other two because of the community demand.
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Since you can almost recreate war2 using the war3 editor, what if the nightelves were simplified to match the orcs and humans back then?

What would Warcraft 2 nightelves units be like? There’s no hero units and you only got 2 air units (1 being a scout.) What would be their submarine? A sea fairy dragon?

All the Druids would still be sleeping :wink:

On the upside, you wouldn’t have any corrupted furbolgs so maybe they could be a thing.

I could see something like

  • Sentinel infantry
  • Archer ranged
  • Huntress cavalry
  • Priestess of the Moon cavalry upgrade
  • Glaive Thrower siege
  • ?Unstable Wisp suicide siege
  • Keeper of the Grove caster
  • Hippogryph or Giant Owl aerial scout
  • Chimaera aerial damage
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Warcraft 3 I think always had more groundswell and pull in the end, as well as being more currently relevant (whether it’s active players/community or most fondly remembered).

I think of the older games, Warcraft 2 aged the most gracefully. The sprites frankly still hold up. The whole OST is a banger. Story’s not super in-depth but it doesn’t quite need to be since the gameplay objectives and missions tend to convey the gravity very well.

WC1 doesn’t make much sense, it’s an extremely old game.

WC2, maybe, but WC2 aged well and it’s still quite fun. They could, at best, remove the unit cap, allow widescreen and make it easy to install on modern computers and play on multiplayer, but graphic changes, etc, I wouldn’t really recommend.

What I would honestly do if I was Blizzard is do all the above and just make it part of WC3 Reforged. Have a little button somewhere on the WC3 Reforged game that takes you back to a free WC2 experience and the possibility to play it multiplayer.

Yeah. At least just add the possibility to link your War2 CD key to BNet account and allow download and playing without CD. These little changes alone would already make a huge difference!

Too old ? Heard of gog!? I’m sure there are other websites that are just like gog … none the less, there are tons of “old / out-dated” games being sold that are just as old, and some even older than WC1/2. So, I don’t want to hear the whine on their too old. Please spare us! lol Either come up with them or have Blizzard announce from themselves that it isn’t going to happen, shut that door for good! :wink: Not too much to ask for.

I think it would be incredibly cool if they revised and rebuilt the W1 and W2 campaigns into Re-Forged. The original missions are very basic so some creative licence would be needed, However, it would be a brilliant way to preserve the history!

TBH there are custom maps out there that already cover this, and even teams like Armies of Azeroth are considering tackling a WC1/2 revamp.

So why not reach out to those creators and add the missions into the campaign …for ease of access? Its probbaly as simple as saying "hey guys, we love what you have done. Can we come to some agreement so that we can incorporate your W1 and W2 missions onto the Re-Forged Campaign.

Just keeps it all nice and tidy, not to mention sends a message to the community that Blizzard is open to supporting great content. Something I am sure they now regret with respect to DOTA.

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For Blizzard, AFAIK its a quality control issue.

SC2 held contests and some maps even became premium while many others get put in spotlights. My models even got spotlighted in Pimp my Footman map. So it isnt to say they dont advertise it, but I think they are careful how to approach it.

Regarding the WC1 and 2 campaigns, there are hundreds of different maps or canpaigns made by different people all with their own interpretation of the campaign. There isnt just one definitive map. They all vary in quality too, so if they added one I guess there is a slippery slope argument for why they dont add all. I wouldnt even be able to tell you which is the best map if the bunch since theyre all uniquely different.

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speaking of websites selling old games: steam does. steam and gog is fairly similar except that gog is nicer because it allows people to download games without a platform that have to run at all times. blizzard is fiercly protective of their games however and refuses to let other people sell them.

Good point, I guess it would just be nice to have the W1 & 2 campaign built into the core game so it all feels like one extended story. Provided they tell an accurate story then Blizzard just picks or rebuilds the best ones I guess. Much easier than hunting down custom maps IMO.

I know lots of people ask for an official version, but personally I would rather this be left to fans interpretations. I mean look how divided this gets from Blizzard making WoW official lore and retroactively inserting elements back into Reforged. They arent even changing the plot and people are cancelling subs because they expected an untouched remaster of the campaign with no extra Sylvanas lines. This kind of expectation isnt as strong if they were playing a custom map.

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