Why are premades allowed in 4v4?

4v4 always had it’s problems, but you could deal with it. While I have other gripes with the game, premades vs randoms in 4v4 is probably the worst decision ever made. Who thought this was a good idea?

There’s this one premade group I keep getting put against and now I just leave because it’s a waste of time. They have an insane rush strategy and I’ve not been able to crack it in at least 25 matches vs them. Premades vs Randoms just does not work.

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This is actually why I quit playing. It’s not fair either when the game has no voice and randoms will not unit share.

Premade groups in 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, they all abuse unit share in team fights and Building. Not to mention the huge advantage with discord voice. I’m not totally against premade groups either, it’s nice you can play with friends. However, they really need to remove unit share and add voice to the game.

You can do voice call using blizz app, as for advantage against premade you just share the same pain as Heroes of The Storm players fighting with amateurs against premade groups. All you need to do is maybe just gather as many friends as you have. It’s unfair but everyone has to deal with it

That’s ghetto, and not convenient. However, I honestly have bigger issues with the use of unit share. Watch one of those Streamers on twitch when they play with friends.

The fact they can cover your build and help tell all the units what heroes to nuke is so dumb. For example, in 4v4 one player will take his and his ally’s units and all focus the squishy heroes first such as the archmage, Blademaster, KOTG and other heroes. If you’re not fast to respond and heal your hero he’s dead.

Far as I know arranged teams will be back to only matching with each other if and when the ranked update ever comes out.

instead of arguing about something that wont change, find a way to enjoy yourselves.

I go in 4s every few weeks just to troll all trash players in that dump. I especially love the ones who try and say they are better than me who challenge me to 1v1 and then get rekt in 5 mins.

I mean this game was ruined since last January, just enjoy the show or leave. Nothing will get better because the publisher doesnt care anymore about this cash grab.

They claimed it’s because the player pools were too small. That said, I remember on the old Mojho Stormhammer website (or whatever it was called) you could look up states by game types and on servers like Kalimdor, it was really low.

Pre reforged I could no longer catch any team games, AT or RT, not even a 2v2, let alone a 3v3 , 4v4, or FFA.

Mixing RT and AT has it’s downsides. And there’s plenty I’m frustrated with about reforged, but this is one of the concessions I supposed I’d take. I’m just grateful to be able to catch 4v4s again.

In a perfect world, they would have done the remaster correctly and boosted player base, but since that didn’t happen, if I had to chose, I supposed I’d choose being able to catch 4v4s knowing it could be lopsided. Better than not catching one at all in my opinion.

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before they released reforged but when they adapted the matchmaker to match a wider range of players, without adding premades vs solo queue players, you had absolutely no issues finding 4v4 rt.

This is just another thing on the list that has made wc3 worse from the classic version.