could someone explain to me WHAT has gone wrong with the release of the game? i understood that blizzard didnt finish the game 100% but why all the negativity? i personally enjoy the game very much! the new animations are awsome and the game is going good for me and i dont really want a refund for it…
and also what with activision??? since their new games i dont like them cause of the Pay to win and lot of Micro transactions what did they did with Reforged?
i also notices that they use some features in the UI that are similar to the game “Ancient wars sparta” but its not important lol
As far as I can tell, it’s mostly three things:
- Even people who didn’t buy Reforged unexpectedly got a client update, and the new client is missing some key features (like clans, or player profile and its win/loss ratio).
- It is fashionable to be mad at Blizzard as a Big Company only out for your money (but from which one should still expect the best, apparently).
- People expected more changes to the campaign, because Blizzard had originally announced more in promotional trailers.
Mate just read few posts on this forum and you will get it.
But in summary.
The main problem is, that Blizzard promised something, let us buy that thing, and then delivered completely different thing. Its like you bought Big Mac at MC Donalds and they served you just ordinary Cheesburger.
The second biggest issue is how poorly the game runs. They chose to create main menu using chromium web app which is incredibly stupid solution. Plus the GUI is so unintuitive. The actual gameplay is not polished / optimalised either.
And I wont even start about the QoL ( Quality of Life ) improvements, because there are just none in the whole game.
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It’s way more than this. I think your second point is ridiculous BTW. Fashionable? It’s for the greater good. It’s called integrity. They’re out of control and ripping so many people off. They take advantage of the ignorant and it brings everyone down with them. They’re on a gluttonous trend now and they’re a gaming company, so many of their consumers are children and their families
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So, ‘as company on a gluttonous trend ripping off children and their familles’? I stand corrected 
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Well game was released unfinished. To make it good you need time, resources and skilled manpower. That means there is lack in these 3 things. Also they did let us know about removing features in a way average customer wouldn’t find out.
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It’s sad that people these days understand and acknowledge that a game is incomplete but are totally fine with it and in their eyes it alone is not enough to warrant a backlash against a company. Shows how much respect they have for their rights and money and by extention; everyone else’s rights. It also shows how much of a mess AAA companies have made of this industry that it is all normalised now.
I don’t support losing your cool and hurling insults with zero explanations, but most arguments here are completely valid. And to a person who enjoyed the game, they may seem to be coming out of the mouth of an angry hooligan of a person when in reality the person may be completely calm when saying them.
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Where was this from? I have heard it before but can’t remember.
I’m fine if I have to wait a few months for the game to be polished, as long as the updates are free. The real screw-up on Blizzard’s part is removing the old BNet client and its functionnalities without having any equivalent to replace it. If not for that, I would be just fine playing the campaign in HD graphics while waiting for the game to grow. Reforged was ambitious and couldn’t be completed before release day. That happens.
Perhaps I’m taking it easier because I’m a big fan of an other gaming company that pretty much runs on adding features in patches.
Companies don’t guarantee whether their games will be fixed or what they will be fixed. That is why i don’t preorder. I pay for certainities, not what ifs. This is a purchase, not an investment. Always have the best possible contingency for a business transaction. You don’t have to have a degree in business for that, just common sense.
Of course, it’s nearly impossible to have 100% certainity. But when you don’t even avail the most basic and easy to acquire contingency provided to you by law or your own common sense then you have effectively nuked your own customer rights and have willingly made yourself a slave with no rights.
no one is being negative please stop making these fake inquiry posts.
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How is the GUI non-intuitive… it’s so self explanatory a 3 year old could figure it out.
You have
-Campaign
-Versus
-Custom games
-collection
I seriously don’t understand the hate and this feedback. It makes absolutely no sense. I’m inclined to believe these people that are complaining haven’t even loaded up the game…
I seriously hope that comment isn’t directed at me.
Explanation for something that is so self explanatory… I don’t get it, you guys are on a witch hunt
could someone explain to me WHAT has gone wrong with the release of the game?
The higherups said “you have minimum budget, make maximum profit, heres your deadline.”
They did exactly what they were told to.
You have
-Campaign
-Versus
-Custom games
-collection
And none of it works properly.
I don’t get it, you guys are on a witch hunt
I only hunt for whiteknights:
- No more profiles
- no more ladder
- “new” menu and chat look and feel awfull, lacking old functions and are made in cheap HTML code: X_https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/exbcrn/the_whole_main_menu_of_warcraft_3_reforged_is_a/
- no more tournaments
- No more LAN
- No more Clans
- No more dx9 support, resulting in bad mouse performance:
X_https://twitter.com/YesItsHappy/status/1224370406431363075
- No more offline AI game functions
- No more cross chat with D2 players
- No more cross-region play (NA playing with EU) in customs
- but unlocked region play in versus where ping actually matters
- you can not add players from another gateway to battlenetfriends even though you get matched up against or with them
- profile portraits do show the default peon when you see a player from another gateway, even though they have a different portrait equipped
- unlocking portraits can now be done by editing the gamefiles
- no /ignore function
- no more custom campaigns
- profanity filter does not work and when it does it crashes ur game, example:
X___Twitch
- No more /commands
- No more RoC balance
- Removed custom game filter
- No mmr system
- classic graphic options do look worse than the original (shadows look worse, some spelleffects are missing or look worse, example:
X_http://i.4cdn.org/v/1580726676652.webm
- some models are misisng entirely in new reforged graphics, example:
X___Twitch
- No keybinds menu
- campaign lacks old eastereggs
- Removed dryad “i’m so wasted” line and other iconic voiceovers which do not fit SJW policy
- Removed Samwise Didier from Gamefiles: X_https://www.reddit.com/r/WC3/comments/eur3z9/what_about_samwise_didier/
- Cut cutscenes
- No Cloudsafe
- if you switch classic to reforged graphics or vice versa, it deletes your campaign progress
- FPS, performance and optimization is bad, even on high end machines
- Cut english voice acting
- New foreign dubs which are inferior and compulsory, cannot be changed back, new german voicelines sound especially dumb
- Cut story content
- Replays safe function dates the replays in no particular order and the dating is wrong
- Arthas vs Illidan cutscene looks like a cheap youtube SFM
- Chat is so broken it cant even autoscroll it self
- Old client is gone even if you don’t own reforged, your forced into this mess
- Custom maps now have a report button so blizzard can ban maps like revenge of the [REDACTED], anime arena and caterparty (the creator of which was already banned)
- 50% of custom games are GONE cuz of new Blizzard ToS
- all intellectual rights on custommaps now belong to Blizzard
- And to top it off, it seems as if the Lead Designer is on massive damage control on twitter.
- Keybinds non existant in replays, cant even edit a dirty .txt file for that
- result screen after a match lacks old information and the “heroes” tab now is broken
- microstuttering in multiplayer, even on high end machines
- AMD users cant play the game properly for 3 months now and are not answered in technical support forums
- campaign does not work , it auto defeats you on certain mission, example: X__Twitch
X___Twitch
- no more safe function in custom games, so certain games are not playable anymore like “Burning Crusade - Raids” or in general all custom games which required you to safe your progress
- after a certain time it auto kicks you from custom games for no reason, example:
X___Twitch
- only 1 blizzard employee named Kaivax for the entire worldwide community
- lack of communication, their only statement so far is an utter joke
- random disconects, high ping, servers stability is awfull
- no leaver penalty
- unlocking collection portraits is broken, example:
X___free tinker portrait, no randoms played? - Album on Imgur
- all the community third party software does not work anymore
- bugs and stuff reported in Beta over ~3 month still in the game, example: X__https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/teamcolors-get-changed-when-upgrading-townhall-or-militia/8919
- 30FPS animations in a uncapped FPS game look horrible
- no new UI which was advertised
- no new content and cutscenes which were advertised
- new maphack bug by blizzard: X_https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraft3/comments/exvhkq/game_breaking_maphack_bug_against_night_elves/
- outsourced development to Malaysian Studio, game art (models, animations, etc.) is not even made by Blizzard: X___Lemon Sky | Kuala Lumpur
and theyre trying to hide this information:
X____https://www.reddit.com/r/WC3/comments/ady9zy/pete_stilwell_hiding_forum_posts_about_malaysian/
- “damage control” bans on forums and twitter for posts like this.
and a couple hundred newly added bugs more which do not fit into a single post, just have a look into bug reports forums.
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#1 reason is that this game was supposed to be an addition not a rewrite of the original wc3… i guess they tried to do a mc collection thing with wc3 but alot of features we had in wc3 aren’t in reforged sooooo… they need to fix this pronto and my map better work in reforged or i’m going to bring this entire thing doooooooooooooooooownnnnnnnnn
they need to fix this pronto
sorry but imo they will never ever be able to fix all this.
the only way to “fix” this is, to scrap the project entirely, payback everyone and say “sorry we f’ed up big time and start new from scratch”.
but since bobby wants his money they will not do this.
They pr damage control, patch in the most basic barebone essentials, abandon this and when the press does not care anymore, they move on.
Really dude? Most of your list is comprised of bugs, which muddies the water on the true issues:
- Broken Promises/Missing Features/False-Advertising.
- Changes in ToS effectively killing Custom Games.
- Prematurely killing/merging the old client.
- Severe lack of communication, coupled with poor damage control.
That, and in the era of digital distribution, it’s just not necessary, they aren’t going to run out of copies…
Blizzard stated their purpose was for the classic community to have a seamless transition to the new Reforged client and for the multiplayer between both players of Reforged and Classic to be transparent. In my understanding ,that means the experience of classic warcraft 3 should NOT change. The transition was anything but that.
Let’s start with the 30gb client. I get it, they wanna have one client for all of Warcraft 3, and from a development’s point of view it makes obviously a lot of sense, but many games that have an option for HD graphics, also have the options to download those assets OPTIONALLY. For example, Phantasy Star Online 2 offers high fidelity textures and models, which you can download or not (and it is a chunky download of dozens of gigabytes). If warcraft 3 had a simple launcher option allowing you to opt out of downloading the remastered models and textures, which you’re NOT gonna use if you don’t even own Reforged in the first place, we wouldn’t be forced to free 30gb of our SSDs (remember, while storage space isn’t much of a problem when you have HDD, big SSDs are much more expensive and it’s not uncommon for people to have less than 200gb SSDs in their machines. On a 120gb SSD, which can be found in many laptops, that 30gb download is literally 25% of your entire disk space). So you can imagine that factor alone was a bad start for people who were playing Classic.
Then there was the fact that performance issues, bugs, and connection issues were reported by innumerous people who again, were not playing Reforged at all.
Just those two aspects alone already mean that the transition was in no way seamless or transparent as Blizzard was promising it would be. Then, add in the fact that multiple game features were removed (some of which, like tournaments, aren’t going to return at all), campaign progress was completely reset, and one of the singleplayer community’s favorite and most beloved feature, custom campaigns, are gone too (there are some AMAZING custom campaigns for warcraft 3, many of them just as good, if not better, than the original RoC and TFT campaigns).
And then there’s the Reforged-specific complaints like the difference between what was advertised and their final product (cutscenes and such).