What if after frozen throne… and the founding of Durotar they kept Reforged going? Kept releasing the WoW Classic through Current WoW story line as a series of RTS expansion DLC. Would you play it? I’m pretty sure I would.
I probably wouldn’t play it if it includes WoW lore.
I’d rather have the other way around: release WoW 2, based on the lore from the first three games
it depends of how they’d turn it out…
Personally, I am hoping for one of two possibilities:
Possibility A) Blizzard releases a full expansion to Reforged (similar to TFT) with a new campaign, new online features, heros/units etc.
Possibility B) they release several different DLCs (besides just skins), such as a campaign pack, a custom games map pack, and a new ladder add-on. This way they could keep the campaign smaller without having to worry about having a huge impact on the story.
This of course depends on how successful Reforged is for Blizzard. Hopefully it does better than SC:R and maybe Blizz will consider making a true WC4 in a few years.
WOW killed Warcraft, don’t expect new sh1t.
I think it would feel kind of… unnecessary? The vast majority of all the bulk that is Warcraft canon is covered in the MMO. Which is still running so it would kind of be treading on its own toes if they both cover the same current story beats and future ones.
But WoW is much friendlier to the LGBTQIA+!
By the way, guys, WarcraFT ends with FT! The expansion was predicted as early as in 2002! But tomorrow is uncertain.
Ive gone through my thoughta on what Id want to see many times.
There is plenty of material to cover between WC3 and WoW, including historic and side story material. I personally wouldnt want to see WoW directly covered storywise, because its a story we know and a story we can relive any time just by playing WoW. There isnt anything an RTS offers better in terms of storytelling or gameplay by translating an MMO storyline.
If effort is gonna be applied, then tackle stuff we havent seen while bridging whatever WoW concepts have to offer.
Bring the Dark Irons, bring the Silithid, bring the Vrykul. None of it has to be exclusive to WoW lore, none of it needs WoW lore to exist in WC3. If people want to see WoW translated into WC3, then theres plenty of custom maps for that.
The story of WoW is a pretty mixed bag in terms of story quality. With the average taking quite the nosedive in recent expansions. Pass.
No, I would not play any WoW related “story” if they were released. However if some original content comes out and is in the spirit of Wc3, then yes, I am interested.
I would absolutely LOVE to see WoW’s story retold in Warcraft3. It’s something I’ve personally wanted to put together myself as custom campaigns, but I’m not talented enough. I don’t think WoW’s story sucks, rather it’s the drastic change in presentation (going from an RTS to an RPG) that bothers most long time fans. I think it would be a lot of fun to play molten core, the black temple, or icecrown from the rts perspective of warcraft 3.
I am an old Warcraft fan since the mid 1990’s and I don’t mind at all the change in game presentation. What really bothers me is the constant retcons, the changes in the universe atmosphere, some choices that don’t make sense in relation to the first three games, etc. All those things make me feel WoW is a different universe. Which makes me sad, since I began to play vanilla WoW because I was thrilled to be able to explore the universe.
RPG or RTS are all fine to me, as long as they make sense. In my opinion, WoW doesn’t anymore.
So, no, it’s not about the change in presentation.
Edit: Don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of great stuff in WoW, including some parts of the lore. But overtime, the connection between WoW and the first three games got thinner and thinner, and I don’t recognise the universe I love so much anymore.
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Good call. I’d agree, the form of storytelling from an RTS game and an MMO are fundamentally different. As an RTS you supercede any individual character. When we do the Orcish campaigns in RoC, we dont imagine ourselves as Thrall, we’re enthralled (ba dum tss) with the characters themselves. In an MMORPG, we’re inserting ourself as our characters into the story, and that tells two massively different stories. I’d like to see a Post-TFT game go with the overall Warcraft Universe, but make it’s own events and tell its own stories.
A good first-step for it, which I think would bridge both parties, would simply make up minor side stories to begin with as mini-campaigns or whatever. They could go back to Arthas’s siege of Quel’thalas and do missions there (for either side really), they could introduce Vrykul, or talk about the Undead invasion of the Nerbuians. Plenty of side areas that haven’t been covered by Wc3, and are pretty glossed over by WoW.
This also has the benefit of if any of the story-arcs tank or people despise, it’s relatively small and self-contained. Just my two cents though
See and I disagree. I wouldn’t mind seeing the events from WoW in the game because I will never fork over another dime to play that god forsaken grindfest again. Not even for it’s story elements which also most of which you can’t see just by going back to it. For instance some of the story elements related to WotLK, BC or hell even classic are all tied to raids that nobody even touches anymore. Not to mention I think the stories themselves would be much clearer in an RTS format without all that side crap that actually has nothing to do with anything. I don’t know how many quests in WoW seemed to be totally unrelated and were just some goon making you run his errands, but it was certainly enough to distract from the actual story elements.
I would be interested in playing warcraft 1 and 2 and the expansion campaign in reforged. But not the world of warcraft storyline.
Only if they drop the teddy bear junk. No panda - yes, yes panda - no.
And there is so much to add aside wow content, like WC1 and WC2 revisit with heroes driven campaigns, troll wars on Azeroth and some content on orcs and ogres for the green part…
But hey we can dream can’t we, i wish for an orcs in space recreation in SC2 engine
RTS format wouldn’t fix any of those issues. Those are problems with the narrative being driven by sandbox gameplay. The story wouldn’t be any better because it was built for a sandbox style and a customizable avatar in mind.
What makes Blizzard’s RTS campaigns so compelling is that we’re following interesting characters and seeing a hero’s journey. We see them grow, from doing mundane crap to the epic moments that define them today. We care for the characters and we see them develop and react to the situations they are given. That’s why Illidan consuming the Skull of Gul’dan was epic, that’s why Uther and Jaina confronting Arthas was such a pivotal moment, that’s why Arthas choosing to take up Frostmourne was a game-changer.
For a majority of WoW’s storyline, those moments don’t really happen. WoW’s story is written episodically as a Power Rangers-esque baddy-of-the-week special. You have a Molten Core threat, you have a Dragon threat, you have a Troll invasion threat, you have a Scourge invasion threat. It’s cut and dry and the story within it is kind of negligeable. They were all designed as globally-threatening obstacles for your Customized Avatar to overcome.
The closest thing we have to a narrative is perhaps Varian’s journey in the comics leading up to him defeating Onyxia. That would be the only thing we have, considering raids like Molten Core, Zul’gurub and even Naxxramas were not championed by any characters of significance. They kinda just happen.
They would be fun as hell maps to play, but other than being a typical quest-based adventure, there isn’t really any story to tell. This is even more the case when you realize that story-wise, we had no reason to fight and kill Illidan during the Burning Crusade.
Well, I guess I didn’t quite blatantly answer it unless you read between the lines.
The presentation would make or break it for me as to whether or not I’d play it.
Personally, I think the right thing to do is to create new campaigns based on lore of the past. It can give a wide range of possibilities for new heroes (racial and tavern), tilesets, creeps, and even items for online play.
Right now I would like to play out events like raise of the black empire, shifting sand, and troll wars, over new campaigns turning WoW gameplay into an RTS style. I can wait for that.
IMO WoW lore is non-canon to Warcraft.
Even if they wanted to make it canon, they could always use the timekeeper excuse to change events.