There is a relatively simple way towards redemption for the WC3 community. Contact me, I will provide any information you require or obtain it in the community. I will direct you to the right people to make it happen. I’m very happy to help or provide feedback every step of the way.
Revert changes to before new ladder system and only add proven working fixes. Instantly get goodwill from community;
Implement W3Champions in to Bnet. Have double the player base instantly, make WC3 shine again, it is possible;
Seasonal play offs and a full ranked ladder with different leagues and a working proven MMR system are already in place;
Talk to W3C about continuation, long term development and maintenance cost. The community carries alot of the maintenance burdain currently. Quick win for moral/goodwill boost in the community if Blizzard can chip in;
Add W3C servers to allow for combined playerbase growth;
Doing this greatly increases ping worldwide for players, again a massive quick win in moral/goodwill boost in the community;
Get a dedicated team to work on balance patches. Small steps, small changes based on community feedback. The community doesn’t expect weekly changes, it just wants to know the game still changes in meta every few months;
The community is very happy and capable to do QA, balance testing and provide feedback.
Once again: Happy to help in every step of the way, provide feedback or get the right people in the room.
You are asking Blizzard to spend more money than what they already don’t want to spend to create a better system they are not even remotely aiming for.
You are asking W3C to hand down their working service and submit to the ignorance of others.
Prevent making cost in order to improve the game (dont develop themselves), use that money to add on w3c as a product.
I absolutely DONT want W3C to hand down their working service. I want Blizzard to talk to them and see how they can help. Handing over W3C would not be good for continuation (unless they somehow can find a way to make it work, but that is entirely up to W3C).
“Hey W3C guys, thanks for making all the hard work for us, here is a plushy murloc for you k thx bye”.
Do you realize all the implications that are required starting from publicly admitting they cannot do the job they were supposed to do?
It’s blizzard you are talking about. Not the good old blizzard. The new blizzard of “we are so good that we have found the only way to make the diablo experience free for everyone” (ye, sure, exploiting someone else’s disease).
These are the people you are talking about.
It will cost, and not only money.
W3C did what they did for the love of the game (besides the level of people you may find there). Here we are talking about the greedyest monetary gain mixed with trying to minimize the damage to the corporate image even further.
It would simply start with “ok, guys, we failed, let’s make it work together now…”
But instead the blame is on you. You had expectations.
The problem with your solution is that it works and it’s probably the best one in the behalf of the community and the game. Not for their pockets
Yes, I realize the implications. I’m part of the same community as you are. I am fully aware of all the copium in the world that is needed for this to end up being initiated. And I don’t care about any of the shade you throw at me for trying. The title is: Redeption story. Anything that comes easy, doesn’t really hold too much value now does it? This is as simple as I can think a solution is available out there. I’m fully aware of who I’m saying it too but my passion for the game and for the possibilities that it still holds is what made me write the message. I don’t even know if W3C still wants to work with them, but damn it I will atleast make the message.
Turning this on me for having expectations is exactly what is wrong here, and what Blizzard has been getting away with for the entire time since Reforged was announced. They received money for it, remember? They tried to ‘milk’ a succes story from the past, but they are literally ruining it for everyone still playing.
If they have the balls to work with W3C to make it work together, they will receive their redemption and have this game run for a long time with growing numbers. I can only see how overcoming all those implications you mention is EXACTLY what is needed for redemption.
Nothing else will work as the biggest movement in terms of skilled players has transfered to W3C and has been spoiled by their product. They did amazing and Blizzard has a massive mountain to climb for them to win over W3C players, which is why I think the idea I presented is the most viable and logical for Blizzard to take IF they are looking for redemption.
I think many people suggested it before the latest patch. It really looks like the best solution. It also appears to be the most logical one.
…and that’s why they wont do it^^
But, suppose W3C becomes a paid service or they start to make money with it.
At this point blizzard is left with 2 choices:
Sue them and make them shut, losing the bit of WC3 community still left (and then perpetuating the joke of yea yea we’ll fix everything, since there are still people believing it).
Work with them to try to get a hand on their money (at least something of this game MAY get fixed, since once W3C passes in blizzard’s hands you never know…).
That is something that could make them move in that direction. It wont happen just out of goodwill. I’m not throwing shades at you. I’m just saying that a reason is needed to make it happen and the only reasons are money, money and money.
WinterDryad can come across as overly argumentative, but I have to agree with him on this one… Blizzard cant admit that the community was right, and they also will never allow w3c to be integrated into the official bnet server because of legal reasons
Unfortunately, the community is decaying quicker than ever because of how poorly the game is busted, and its probably way too expensive for Blizzard to ever do the right thing for the community
I called them “Activision” but now its Microsoft … lol??
that is exactly what Blizzard did back in 2020, they said they decided not to continue altering or improving the campaign because players complained too much, that is literally what they said in an official statement even though everybody knows the complaints were not about the new campaign changes, in Blizzards official statement they said “we want to say we’re sorry to those of you who didn’t have the experience you wanted”
If you see the posts of the people that are still here after almost 3 years all we want to achieve is to have a normally playable game. We may have different opinion on how to achieve it or what is more important or when it will eventually happen and that’s what generates most of the arguments (and flaming), but in the end, that’s what kept us here for these 3 years…
The funny part is that they managed to shift from “I don’t care what it is, it’s a Blizzard game!” to “I care about the game, not interested in who’s working on it as long as it works.”
It is a huge step if you think about it…
I don’t understand people’s fascination with linking anyone’s opinion, position, stance, feelings, point, etc with the number of posts. There’s is literally zero connection between them.
It’s like a lazy attempt by some people to jab at someone else simply because they couldn’t find any fault with the actual words.
while making W3C into an official thing wouldn’t be a bad way to go, it will never happen. Hell will freeze over and we’ll get everything Reforged originally promised before something like that would happen lol
I feel you on this one. People will give you crap for being new if you have no posts, and people will give you crap for having a ton of posts too.Like which is it?
Eh, to be fair that’s not yet even a thing. The actual closing of the transaction is gonna take a fair while yet. Probably 2nd quarter of the next fiscal year.
Yeah, and the Microsoft acquisition actually taking hold might even bring positive change to the company. Maybe.
Not really holding my breath but they haven’t exactly had a negative impact on the companies they’ve acquired thus far, so I think the case can be made for some cautious optimism.
