The Forsaken Confusion

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Its probably too much to ask but i never understood it. The Forsaken in warcraft 3 is nothing like in WoW. They employ ghouls, necromancers, Crypt fiends and more which pretty much does not exist within the current forsaken army, to add insult to injury, the nerubians are loyal to the lich king.

Always confused me in my child hood how they were called the undead in WoW but looked nothing like their warcraft 3 counter parts. Any plans to change this?

Sylvanas is or atleast was all about that free will, yet the only ones that seemed to have it was the banshees, and you could make the argument that they would go on to become the dark rangers. But what the female and male forsaken or undead?

Are we suposed to pretend that all of the ghouls are them? As I seem to recall the ghouls are mindless. Are the necromancers the male forsaken? Seems like a stretch and they are loyal to kel’thuzad.

Could literally just be fixed by replacing the ghoul model with a forsaken death guards and the crypt fiend with dark rangers or something.

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varimatras :slight_smile:
Dreadlords were still commanding scourge on mainland when lich king became weaker and sylvanas became free.
if you check campaign again you can see at first mission of forsaken they lack units like abominations , necromancers etc… :stuck_out_tongue:
its AFTER varimatras joins her ranks that forsaken gain control of scourge units

except ghouls… it was 1 mission mandatory because they are lumber harvesters and without them you cannot play a campaign mission with base building :confused:
also as I know sylvanas started this with herself and her banshee sisters. not with human forsakens.
later she starts to ressurect humans/players and give them choice to serve dark lady or wander freely.

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Dont you just hate it when you think youre a genius then someone comes along and destroys your arguments with pure logic

Well guess it all makes sense, also considering varimathras stayed with Sylvanas until Wotlk

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:stuck_out_tongue: dont worry it was still a good point . those ghouls being there still some kind of lore breaking but I think we can get around of it by saying “they are possesed by sylvanas/banshees” :smiley:

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Too bad Varimathras was murdered by Blizzard in WoW one of my favourite characters. Oh wait they killed like 95% o characters in WoW

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they killed varimatras by betraying sylvanas?

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Well I never liked Sylvanas so i don’t mind. But its sad that so many W3 characters had to die so that we could have nice looking weapons

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ohhh you mean literral deathlol :smiley: I thought you were talking about “they ruined his lore” etc XD
yea sure :smiley:

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The simple explanation is to attribute it to gameplay. It didn’t really make sense that Sylvanas would be employing Crypt Fiends as they were under the wing of Anub’Arak and loyal to the Scourge in TFT.

It would be interesting if we could get as you say, alternate units of some sort for Sylvanas’ Forsaken Campaign in Reforged. Blizzard did note specifically that Jaina and Sylvanas would be getting some more screentime.

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also nobody seems to care about the fact that Arthas can reach level 10 in the Culling mission, seems they may give us more missions in between ( or just enabled level 15 for ROC missions also at least)

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dude
ALPHA GAMEPLAY !

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dude chapter 6 out of 9, even with alpha they would not put that level in there unless some changes are being made.

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I doubt even if it was in campaign mode limiting level gain… it was more like in custom map mode if you ask me

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Yeah they only revived him in Legion as a skelleton with a hate of Sylvanas because unexpectingly he whas loyal to her till she discarded him in WotLK.
Also with Cata Garrosh off-screen killing Cairne shows that back in the old days Blizz did not care about characters and so killing them if it seems like fitting for dramatic but years later they found out they miss the lore characters as they failed to produce fresh ones.