STOP PUTTING ME IN GAMES WHERE I GAIN LIKE 2 MMR. WHAT’S THE POINT OF PLAYING 10 GAMES AND GAIN 20 MMR, AND I LOSE 1 GAME AND I LOSE 100 MMR?
https://imgur.com/a/oIDfacH
FIX THE MATCHMAKER
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Speaking of this topic. Just had another GREAT game (a.k.a one of The Unwinnable™ Games. 1 afk guy (anyone who plays 4v4 knows who the afk on my team was). And of course both my teammates left.
2 leavers + 1 afk. And you know what my MMR loss for this game was?
https://imgur.com/a/hxC4W6h
You have the highest MMR in 4v4, the matchmaker is unable to match you with anyone remotely close to your own so it is forced to put you up against people it thinks you will most likely stomp, thus the MMR allocations are calculated accordingly.
I have exactly the same issue. I’m losing a lot of MMR, even when the enemy teams have higher total MMR. It makes zero sense. I dropped from around 3600 MMR (with Human) to 2300 in just a few games. I’m losing between 65–120 MMR per loss, but only gaining 10–50 MMR per win.
In the next patch, I think they’ll finally fix this MMR issue and honestly, it might be the only real fix they make for multiplayer. They’ll probably just say something like, “We fixed the MMR bug in multiplayer,” and throw in one extra change to make it look like they’ve done more. I don’t know about you, but to me, it really seems like they’re doing this on purpose. I could be wrong, but it feels like they keep creating problem after problem just so they can appear active , like they’re constantly working on updates. But in reality, these issues only frustrate players and make people lose interest in the game.
Same goes for people who feed their main accounts or team kill because someone on their team annoyed them. Blizzard doesn’t ban them or even give timeouts for leavers ,maybe because they want the game to die.
The REAL issue is that the lowest MMR (Sub 1000) are all trolls. And they hold MMR hostage. Beating them you gain nothing but them TK’ing you loses you 100+. Also becomes worse as many of these sub 1k MMR players can play the game they just pick and choose who to mess with.
Give me a 2k-4k limit on MMR matchmaking and I’d be happy. Alternately review the sub 1k MMR players and ban them as they’re 99% trolls
Why did Blizzard even bother rolling out these leagues, like Duelist and Veteran, if you’re just thrown into a blender with everyone else? What’s the point of MMR if the game just spits out random opponents? It seems like they completely misread the memo on ‘Random Team’ and turned team play into a genuine lottery. A pure, unadulterated, chaotic crapshoot of player matchmaking.
This. 100%. 1000%. 10000%.
These “players” will proudly announce their “tk list” and proceed to ruin everyone’s games.
Personally I’ve got several players who will do the following:
This is coming from the highest MMR player on bnet, and also the MOST TKED PLAYER ON BNET. (Yes. I am the most tked player on bnet by far).
From what I gather, you used to tear them to shreds before, slinging mud and saying they played terribly – there was a whole saga about it on the forum, right? No wonder they remembered. And now, they’re wreaking vengeance on you. The human capacity for revenge? It’s practically etched in stone. So, I honestly don’t know what to advise you now. Maybe the only way out is to shed your skin and create a new account, carefully masking your true identity, so they don’t realize it’s you.
Lets be honest mate… We all know if you’re playing actively the sub 1k MMR players who are AFK, TK’ing, Only CC’ing, building mass tower etc. These players have 20k+ games often and should have been banned 10 years ago.
I don’t understand why people don’t see the reality about this game. Blizzard’s plan is not to fix it. Don’t be fooled when they fix small things here and there. I’ve already said in another post: the same issues will just come back, so they can pretend they’re “fixing” something, when in fact, it’s the same problem from years ago.
Multiplayer is the only thing keeping this game alive. If they manage to kill the multiplayer experience, that means fewer custom game players, fewer people online, and eventually fewer complaints on the forums. That gives them an excuse to abandon the game completely and stop working on it.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Blizzard is purposely letting people leave, or even allowing cheats in ranked, just to push more players away. Matchmaking systems and timeouts for leavers exist in every modern game, it’s not hard to implement. Blizzard is just pretending like it’s some complex issue.
The MMR system is still broken. You lose more MMR than you gain, exactly like before. They keep going back and forth with the same issue, like a cycle. And they know exactly what they’re doing, because that’s how they get people to quit. If nothing improves, people will eventually give up.
Think about it, please. Maybe then we can come together and push back, because once we see their plan, we can actually do something. But if you still believe that Blizzard is going to fix the game, then you’re believing exactly what they want you to believe.
Just wait a few years… you’ll see for yourself. There won’t be enough players left.
You’re still wearing rose-tinted glasses, I’ll tell you that! Years? Ha! It won’t even last a year - they’ll all scatter like frightened birds! With these patches, these so-called ‘improvements’, they’re basically digging the grave for this game themselves. I’m entirely convinced they’re actively trying to bury it. It’s not making them any money, and it’s draining resources.
Look at W3Champions! Ugly as it is, those enthusiasts managed to build it brick by brick – and it’s still kept alive by donations! Sure, W3Champions isn’t perfect. There’s some shady dealings, abuses of power from the moderators! One of the vicious moderators banned me for life on Discord because I simply expressed my opinion about politics in a channel called ‘Flood’. Others were talking about it back in 2020. But only I got a lifetime ban, because my opinion apparently didn’t sit well with the mod Toxi! I must be the wrong flavor of ice cream! He himself wrote a whole book about politics there, but he wouldn’t ban himself for some reason. Double standards, pure and simple.
But here, everything’s dead in the water. I already recognize almost all the players by their nicknames in 4v4. Almost all of them! What a ‘massive’ player base this is, that I can memorize everyone?
Another couple of months, and the game will crumble completely, like a rotten tree. I’m even thinking of calling it quits. I have a lot of games, but I came back here last year after 5 years AFK. Decided to check out what was new with the patches… what a disappointment! An abyss of bitterness and sorrow! I feel only negative emotions in 99% of my games. It’s unbearable.
And I don’t see any improvements. None! I only see a charade, an imitation of effort from these so-called ‘developers’. Increase Lich’s attack radius – REALLY?? Thanks, we’ve been waiting for this for years!
The best advice I can offer the developers is to roll back to 1.18 and leave everything else alone. Just minor tweaks! Tiny balance adjustments! And nothing else! Don’t touch it! Improve the matchmaking! We need fair matches!
Amen!!!
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This is nothing. If your ally drops and you win the game you can literally lose 1500 to 3000 MMR. Not kidding. Happend to us. Multiple times.
Vids or it didn’t happen
It does happen. It happens all the time. Everything that Solo, Moke and Sprenter say, happens.
But who are you to always come up with the polemic?!
These days, I think I finally ran into you, “CaptainJack”: 30 % win-rate was it, right? Dude, you are no authority at all for all the talk you give here night and day.
Again, Vids or it didn’t happen. It’s so cool when people make odd claims and provide no evidence.
And my win rate is irrelevant. You don’t have to be good at the game to have knowledge. I have physical limitations that make the game more difficult to play. Doesn’t mean I don’t know anything about it. Knowledge doesn’t automatically equal skill. But go ahead, feel free to name shame so I can report you for it. This game is a talk-crap simulator. All anyone ever does is moan and complain here, moan and complain in game, rage and moan some more. Then maybe flame and troll other players, then come back here and complain more. Why are you all playing if you aren’t having any fun? lol
So yeah, about those 1500 MMR losses. Still waiting to see the evidence. Since you’re not doing it, I’ll go ahead and investigate this further myself 
Here’s a snippet from the rank 1 player’s 4v4 history (disclaimer: This is for illustrating the point, and not to disparage anyone - If this still tests the limits of the rules, I can strike out the usernames from the images)
In all the games visible to me, he’s got a few losses with ~ -100MMR and some gains in the 50s and 60s, and a few obviously skewed matches he was heavily favored to win where he only gets +2.
But none of this is out of line with what I would expect for the rank 1 player. Literally everyone else is below him, so he’s going to gain less for wins and lose more for losses.
Here’s another top 4v4 player and known player on this forum. Again, no disparagement intended (And happy that their own claims about their performance were true)
Heck, he’s at 7100 MMR and I’m seeing wins over +100 and no losses over -70 or so. Nothing unusual here.
I’ve browsed the profiles of several top players in the leaderboard, and not seen any “-1500” MMR changes. So that means either
So yeah, I might be completely trash at this game, but I have these lovely things called eyes and they don’t see anything that aligns with what you’ve claimed in this thread.
