Remove Orb of Corruption

Competitive Multiplayer
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Please Remove Orb of Corruption, it causes more harm than good because:

  1. It’s waaaaay stronger than the other orbs.
  2. You have to balance UD army and hero dmg with it in mind.
  3. UD Player is forced to pick it otherwise it’s a massive handicap.
  4. UD can’t play without Lich.
  5. It promotes burst dmg, and kill combos on enemy heroes, not fun.

Removing the -5 Armor text and adding something else (maybe a 1 sec Cripple Effect? IDK) could perhaps open up more strategies for UD, after some minor adjustments (buffs) to basic units.

EDIT: I AM NOT ASKING FOR A NERF.
As some people interpreted it, I am asking for a change in play style. For all I care, to compensate for the removal of the orb, blizz could give ALL undead units +1 dmg. I just don’t wanna be forced to buy the thing every game => get a lich to put it on every game => try and go for 1-2-3 kill combo on enemy heroes every game to win.

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What ist different to Darkranger or Dreadlord has the orb?

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Nerf UD lol?..,

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The orb is most useful on ranged heroes, and Dark Ranger already had 1 orb effect.

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It’s not about buff or nerf, I’m sure the development team will give or take away as necessary to make the game fair.

It’s about diversity. Orb+lich forces spider gameplay only, and forces blizzard to overnerf everything else to prevent the t3 orb timing push from becoming too strong. This in turn forces even MORE reliance on lich+spider+orb play since nothing else works. Look at the dreadlord buffs. They were substantial. But because dreadlord can’t focus fire with orb, he still isn’t useable.

Think of an UD army without orb. It doesn’t work. Nothing is cost efficient. Compare the per food stats of griffins and frost wyrms, or fiends and rifles. The balance of the entire race is designed with the assumption that everything’s damage will be nudged 20% higher by a lich with orb.

I just want fun to watch games with many possibilities, not spiders from tier 1 to tier 3 all game every game… zzz

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It’s not only about the orb. Undead’s only dispell is destroyer and that, besides the orb, forces them to go for a fast tier 3. More viable strats for undead would definitely be really nice but I think that would require pretty huge changes.

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Completely change the Orb of Corruption (no armor reduction).

Give Obsidian Statues (tier 2) some form of dispel ability.

Rebalance UD damage output because Orb of Corr is no longer reducing armor.

Give UD proper healing item in tier 1 shop so that they are not forced to go Death Knight every game.

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Yep. Orb functionality change would be the biggest change by far in any patch. But it’s the precondition for any meaningful change to UD.

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Imagine complaining about undead in 2019 lol.

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Glad to see some people getting my point, and nice to point out the dispel issue, forgot about that. UD really feels quite different from the other 3 races in the sense that you always go for more or less the same strategy, even if you go Dreadlord or Dark Ranger first. Fiends > Destroyer > MAYBE Wyrm / Abo / Garg / Wagon depending on what you are up against IF AND ONLY IF the game goes long enough, but most games you just stick to fiends and destro. The other races at least have 2 viable builds along tech-counters. Heck, NE has 3 or 4 if you consider mass archer KOTG POTM a “build” and not a cheese :))

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Its useless to use orb with Dr?

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Orb effects don’t stack.
If you want to play DR w/o arrow, well, let’s just say it’s sub optimal

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rework orb of corruption and rebalance undead.

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Gotta agree with OP. The orb is far too powerful right now. They nerfed it from 5 to 4. They should try 3 or 2 armor reduction. Compensate UD with something else.

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I think UD just relies too much on the orb…Like people are saying - you can’t take it away without giving something to the race to make up for it…That’s the only reason I feel it’s balanced.

I mean there’s things that can be done with the item to make it a little more balanced - considering the ease that UD have in obtaining one…increase the cost?

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Orb of Corr needs to be removed (reworked) and UD balanced around that.
UD need a PROPER healing item in tier 1 shop so the DKnight isn’t so god damn mandatory.

Death Coil when attacking could probably get the Shadow Strike treatment - part of Coil damage is instant while the other part is over time (healing would still be instant).
UD melee and UD casters still need more buffs, and giving UD a tier 2 dispel would be good (perhaps Statues should do it).

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Technically they already do, its called blight and not only does it heal undead but it hurts enemies too

I can understand balancing the item, but removing it completely is overkill

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possibly a little off topic, but this stigma that undead is a “weak race” really irks me…It’s mostly on these forums and sometimes in certain twitch channels (not by the players but the viewers). I have never seen happy, or syde or anyone like that ever say “undead is weak”…ever.

sorry just had to get this out…saw someone above post something like “nerf ud lol?”…like - yes ud has some things that are pretty darn good - and there have been nerfs to stuff that’s weaker than what they have.