Reforged is totally fine and safe

Its Malaysian outsourcing studio, and only Malaysian artists are allowed to reforge Warcraft III.
See,its a local note, it may give a great glory to national studio when they suceeed+warcraft will be very popular in that country more than ever before.
Honestly i would install a regional server in Malaysia why not ?
Hey, chill man, everything is under control, we are safe totally and you should actually pre-order game.
We are fine

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ok they’re outsourcing for models, and? is that a bad thing?
i mean as long as the guys doing the models are not getting wiped to do it i honnestly don’t see a problem with that.

Agree.
Defiler, you should accept my unicorn philosophy and start casting rainbow spells.
Just relax and spread positive thoughts = universe will pay you back guarantee 100%

They’re outsourcing to a Malaysian studio, Lemonsky.

Lemonsky worked on Starcraft Remastered’s art. Their other projects include the PS4 Spiderman game, Uncharted Lost Legacy, Dark Souls 3 and Gears of War 4.

While the style they’re choosing is debatable, their track record is pretty solid.

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I find it super doubtful that Lemon Sky is just making the models willy nilly with 0 input from Blizzard who is paying them to do this.

I didn’t say they have 0 input from Blizzard.

Isn’t input implied when I said outsource? But from what I think I heard from interviews, the concepts are also being done internally at Lemonsky. Brian Sousa may be the one working as an Art co-ordinator/consultant since he’s the one ā€˜Art guy’ that we know about on the Classics team.

I actually hope they can release their concept art to the public, or even compile em into a digital art book or something. I love the ones we’ve seen so far and I hope to see more of it/all of it.

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Well they are creating models watching concept art.
And often they add some new style different from concept art, which is positive and innovative.
Looking forward to chimaera, i know its awesome, i already can see it

I didnt know. Thats nice to hear, cause those concepts are awesome !
So when they choose to make a model that has not much to do with their own concept its not they dont know make good model,it just prooves more inovation,passion :slight_smile:

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What I do find interesting is that they do deviate from their own concept art too.

Their Tauren Chieftain model is very different from their Tauren Chieftain concept art. The concept deviates quite a bit from the classic look, so I’m wondering if there was input from Blizzard to get it looking more closely to the original.

It’s also possible that the concept art may be used for an alternate skin, like how the Paladin has a non-Uther look.

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I was thinking maybe in demo and screenshots we didnt see only regular models , but rather skins.
Its a common thing for promotion of new project.
Its good if those models are skins, will make happy many wow-hots and new players.
I just know and believe in the project and i feel safe finally, anyway i dont mind discusion in positive manner ofc :slight_smile:

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Oooooh c’mon! Are you @-ing kidding me? This is bull***t.

I could understand SC Remastered, but outsorcing models for they best game Blizz. ever made (sorry StarCraft 2, you are very close, but WC3 still win) it’s lazy and dumb at the same time, couldn’t they just pull Phillip Gonzales from HotS development and put him on the WC3R development team?
After all he joined Blizz. because of his love for WC3. You can see that he would have made better models just by looking at his Heroes of the Storm Arthas, it’s really close to his original concept art, when instead Lemonsky one looks straight from some s@itty hen/tai game, he is capable of doing great models, his SC2 WoL models were mostly good, SC2 HotS models even better and Heroes of the Storm ones are magnificent, i mean just look at his Li-Ming render, it’s one of my favourite on the whole game, great proportions without being a ti*ty monster and her face looks pretty KEKhttp://i.imgur.com/dli4UxY.png

But no, let’s outsource our models to a third party company, that make good background models on other games (even on my favourite game ever Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne) but simply doesn’t know how to give a soul their models, i mean they look good but uninteresting at the same time, they should have chosen someone else, like that dude that made Legacy of the Void renders, or that guy that made SC2 Dragoon, they look outstanding.

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call it a hunch but it feels a bit misguided when you think the company they’re outsourcing to is doing it with no direction and feedback from Blizzard

laughs histerically
oh wait, you were serious?

If I were you, I would have just posted this:

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Yes, even with the stupid proportions HotS has, it’s still better modeled of Reforged Arthas, especially his face.
Btw I should be the one laughing if you think that Reforged Arthas looks better of HotS Prince Arthas.

@omelette: Blizzard is guiding them with concept art, but sadly some models looks very different from the art they are inspired from.

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Like?

Also we’ve only ever seen the first iteration, if they’ve been taking feedback or internally there’s been more takes.

I hope that they are taking feedback, btw some example of models that don’t fit their concept art we have renders like Arthas and Uther, these two are the worst, since their proportions are completely off, even the Dread Lord is a bit different If compared to his concept art, but in this case it looks much better since he doesn’t look thicc for no reason (on the other hand Uther needs to be way thiccer).

The models look good, but if it would have been Blizzads itself to do them, we would have even better renders

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well, you prefer hots arthas while i prefer the reforged one (and believe me, i hate myself enough for that…) and i respect your opinion, but… arthas is supposed to be 24 and his hots model looks like he’s 45 (and i’m being nice) and his armor just looks like it’s made of play-doh. at least his reforged model looks his age and his armor looks like actual metal. of course i’m not saying it looks perfect either (believe me i’d like to see changes to it) but i think it looks better on so many levels.
but that’s just my sh!tty opinion and i should get burned for thinking like that.
laugh at me if you want to, i don’t mind :slight_smile:

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Dude i get it, but i prefer a 45 years old Arthas instead of an Asian 17 years old Arthas that we have on Reforged.

I prefer his HotS model for these reasons:

Even if it has super exaggerated proportions and toy-like textures (to can fit on Heroes aesthetics), if you take into consideration that it’s a HotS model from 2014/2015, you can clearly see why it’s done by Blizzard itself, his face perfectly fit his WC3 Cover art, the proportions make overall sense.
With WC3R Arthas we instead have someone that simply couldn’t translate well a simple concept art… Arthas neck it’s so long that it resembles a giraffe, his shoulder pads are too high and there’s a stupid empty space between his right pauldron and his shoulder, metal textures are not enough to make it look better of a model made by professional (blizzard and all the independent artists that make models for them)

HotS Model
xhttps://blizzardwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/heroes-arthas-crown-prince-arthas-skin.jpg

Arthas HotS Face

xhttps://i2.wp.com/heroes.blizzplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/pax-east-2014-heroes-of-the-storm-hi-res-comparison-arthas-1.jpg

Arthas Reforged Comparisons

xhttp://img2.ali213.net/picfile/News/2019/01/16/2019011693505720.jpg

Reforged Arthas Hent@i Face

xhttps://game-experience.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Warcraft-3-Reforged-.jpg

Reforged Arthas Artwork

xhttps://d2skuhm0vrry40.cloudfront.net/2018/articles/2018-11-03-16-31/blizzcon-2018-warcraft-3-reforged-prova-anteprima-1541262675853.jpg/EG11/thumbnail/1920x1080/format/jpg/2005776.jpg

WC3 Cover Art

xhttps://cc-media-foxit.fichub.com/image/fox-it-mondofox/c07917b9-a151-4b73-ad92-5222138878b7/warcraft-3-reforged-primi-video-gameplay-per-l-attesa-remaster-maxw-654.jpg

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sorry but on his WC3 cover art he doesn’t look like my creepy 45 years old uncle trying to impersonate Arthas. or Khadgar with a wig.

why?

when i said his reforged model needed things to be changed that was one of the main things i was thinking about, so yeah i agree with you on this one.

i get why people are bothered by this, but personally it didn’t bother me that much…

to discredit his reforged model, i personally think they should have 100% followed his WC3R concept art with minimal changes. or his hearthstone art. and maybe should have made his face look more like his WC3 cover art.

of course i still respect your opinion, and i guess we just have a different vision of Arthas :slight_smile:

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I wish I looked that chiseled and masculine when I was 17, damn.

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