So its been few years now but the state of new bnet is abysmall, just a “couple” of my grievances:
Totally random disconnects - My internet works, everything else connected to net works fine, there is no break in connection but I get logged out bnet and disconnected from the game. Happens almost daily
Matchmaking in Random Team is just that TOTALLY RANDOM! MMR, score etc, doesn’t matter really, most games are either autowins or autolosses due to huge gap in team skills.
My profile in-game showing 1-0 for 2 years now, just a complete and utter joke
Patches and balance??? Can people who don’t play this game stop “balancing” it?
Blizzard earns so little they can’t spare like 200$ to pay a few pro players, ask em what they think should be done with certain things and then just go from there?
It’s almost as if it’s called random team for a reason lol
No matter how “fine” your internet works in ," “random disconnects” are not a problem with the game. It’s either a you problem or a problem on the route that your packets are taking to reach the server. In the latter case, a VPN can often solve this problem.
Blizzard never ran the pro tournaments for this game, it was never up to them to pay anyone anything. If you want pro players to be paid, then donate to the prize pools.
Usually caused by playing on EU, switching to NA, and back to EU again. Try switching to a different gateway and see if your profile updates. It shouldn’t significantly affect your experience since matchmaking is global anyway.
Today alone I have not been able to complete a single custom game on BNET…I keep getting booted. I have to think this is something on their end because I have been playing non stop for over a month with no issues like this prior.
thats 100% false there are many examples in gaming where it effects alot of people but most just give up and just stop lol plus there is a fact that blizzard trys to shut up as much negative reactions to what we are all dealing with. with their bs community standards they are filtering out truths If its so good they wouldnt have been scared to keep the old client for those of us who had it instend of replacing it with reforge garbage where the client was actrually decent, the fact is when reforge came out it basicly auto deleted many custom game communitys, and even normal game players from the game
It’s not false at all. If something is wide spread, you’re going to see more than one complaint. Yes, a lot of people will give up without saying anything. But if nobody was able to complete games on battle.net you can be near certain there would be more than one person saying this. Which, again, indicates a likely networking issue either on their end or somewhere along the path they’re taking to the server. Perhaps you’ve never studied networking and don’t understand how it works, but this is a very common issue and networking issues are often not within the developer/publisher’s control.
Look back to a week or two ago. There was a complaint that the FFA queue wasn’t working. A whole bunch of people posted in it saying the same thing. Thus it’s clear there was a problem with the server. Proof that widespread issues will result in multiple complaints.
No idea who you are but you are prolly the biggest suck-up to blizzard that I have seen.
Also im not some dumbo who doesn’t know how these things work.
So yeah, RT (random team) could benefit from a WAY BETTER matchmaking algorithm, so I don’t get matched with ppl who are 4300 vs enemies which are 5600+. Might as well just give me a freelose at that point.
Random disconnects: So yeah, only happening in wc3, not in ANY other online game I play. Re-checked my connection countless times, bought 2 new gaming routers, still sometimes I can’t even log in to the game let alone play.
You totally missed my point, I said blizzard should pay someone who actually plays the game to balance it since they don’t know what they are doing obviously and are constantly reverting things which come out with a new patch.
Again profiles , ain’t this a Blizzard issue? Like for real bro, can you get your head out of their butthole?
There’s a reason why there is such a big disconnect: There’s not enough players queueing so the game matches you against the closest possible match. That’s not the matchmaking’s fault.
Did you try a VPN like he suggested?
Patches are made based on data and feedback from the matches people play. If there ain’t a lot of players, there’s not a lot of data. Pros are one thing, but regular people’s data is also needed. A game made for pros by pros won’t attract normal players, you feel me?
Probably, but at the same time they don’t have the resources to put into fixing it because Microsoft has bigger fish to fry.
You really have no idea about this guy’s post history, do you? Just because he tries to give you explanations that you don’t find agreeable doesn’t make him a “suck-up”.
He’s trying to help you, for F’s sake.
The algorithm purposely mismatches MMRs when it there aren’t any players with appropriate MMRs. Otherwise, games would sit unstarted for some extended amount of time.
The fault is actually the choice to play a game with a small playerbase.
First of all, you’re very late to the party, you might want to check the dates on posts before replying to them.
How exactly am I sucking up to Blizzard here?
Out of all the things i’ve ever been called, I’m the most offended by this. I complain about things all the time. In no way whatsoever am I “sucking up.” I simply work in game dev and I’m just sick and tired of people not understanding how these things work. Blizzard is responsible for #()$*%^ing a lot of things up, but when people conflate isolated issues/incidents with actual failiures and bugs, that just really grinds my gears as a game developer. Yes, we should yell at them when they screw up, but yelling over things that clearly aren’t their fault JUST BECAUSE we’re pissed about other things doesn’t make sense. That’s not sucking up, that’s just being rational.
Sucking up would be me going around everywhere saying BLIZZARD ROX I LUV BLIZZARD UR ALL JUST HATERS! Which I have done exactly zero times ever, aside from writing this this post.
If you want to exact change, do so in a respectful manner. Usually it’s higher-up corporate decisions that lead to the problems we have now (which was the case with Reforged), and not the actual people who made the game itself.
The reality right now is Blizzard has the minimum skeleton crew assigned to this game to reboot the servers when they crash and make random balance changes. Because Blizzard itself cares so little, the people they assign to the project clearly aren’t enthusiastic to be working on it with zero resources. Blizzard did kinda-sorta apologize for the situation, but what the ended up doing was simply releasing patches that were mostly already completed by the original dev team before they were fired. The original people working on the game were trying to make it good, it was then-Activision who defunded the project and took staff away from the project to work on other things who caused Reforged’s failiure.
Can you read? I wasn’t addressing any of that, so say it all you want. I was only talking about MMR disparities.
Many would disagree seeing as I said above it creates situations where no game gets played at all.
Without the system being able to tell the future, it will never know what MMRs are coming down the queue. Even if it distributes the currently waiting MMRs, here would never be a foolproof way to balance each game because there’s no guarantee the waiting MMRs can be evenly distributed.
Simple eh? Perhaps you should be placing an application to Bliz so you can school them on how simple it is, since you know the code so well. This makes you look so desparate that you’ll throw out anything you can conjure, even it’s nonsense.
For real, you’re just demonstrating that all you have left is disparagements and insults, meaning you’ve nothing substantial left against the rebuttals you’ve received.
And haven’t you heard? All internet forums posters are game devs, and network engineers, and coders, and financial experts, and even lawyers. So no one cares what your job is, unless it’s for Bliz on WC3R. If it’s not, you have zero credibility when it comes to what’s “simple”.
You’re so edgy, which just makes you look desperate rather than rational and logical.
Pro life tip: When it seems like you’re right and the whole rest of the world is wrong, it’s probably not the whole rest of the world that’s wrong.
No games played at all? Ok lemme explain it simple how this stupid matchmaking works
Lets say you got player E - 5400 mmr, he searches for a game gets a slot in game que A-slot 1. Here comes next player F - 5240 mmr, gets slot 2 in que A. Then player R 4800 mmr gets slot 3, player Z 4600 gets slot 4 = game puts E+F in Team 1, R and Z in team 2 = game starts.
And we have a game where its 5240+5400 mmr vs 4800+4600
It would be simple to add (not re-write the code), just add a few lines of code for the system to analyze the mmrs (which are basic numbers) and re-shuffle the teams.
If you weren’t so focused on just pointlessly whinning how I’m “being a d1ck” or w/e and riding your moral high horse you would see that I never stated that THESE GAMES SHOULDNT HAPPEN, if was just saying if you are putting 4300+4200 vs 5400+5600, maybe just FIX IT so it puts 4300+5400 vs 4200+5600 to make it more even?
Pro life tip: Learn to read and not just cry about “GAMES WOULDNT HAPPEN, LONG QUE, OMG OMG OMG”
And yes, do pleeeeeease tell me how this would impact searchtime? Like how it creates a situation where the game “doesn’t get played at all” ? Where exactly does the system needs to “tell the future” ?
TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE OBVIOUS, ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS BALANCE THE SCALES
Doesn’t have to be perfect, just more even.
and just another 2 cents of mine; people like you (and CptJack and few others) are the reason this game is in this abyssmal state. Why? Cuz you just know how to defend, make up stupid “fixes” instead of just all of us wc3 consumers banding together and pressing this company to fix their product WE PURCHASED.
Now that’s just being disingenuous. We didn’t cause Blizzard to pull their funding from the game, Activision did. And do you not think we didn’t band together and press them to fix things? Look where we are now - stuck with a game meant for a larger playerbase and the problems that causes.
Being angry about the game won’t fix it. We can’t fix it because it’s not our job. And Blizzard won’t do it because they’ve been told they won’t get the funding for it - being angry won’t fix that either. All we can do is live with what we get and either stick around and make the best of what we have or walk away and do something else with our lives.
I didn’t say that. I said situations where games never start. Not no games will ever start. You can drop this whole ‘can you read’ shtick seeing you can’t seem to.
And as I said above, there’s no guarantee the avaliable MMRs can be reshuffled evenly. Theres no guarantee there will be a good combination of MMRs with the players that are queuing. And with the small playerbase, the odds drop even further toward zero.
Simple. again? Credibility sinking further.
Because you know the code so well, again, that it would just be an addition, not a rewrite? So what you’re proposing is to have the code for current way and your way existing at the same time? Side by side?
Smh
I never said anything of the sort. Again, and you ask others if they know how to read… Well, just like above:
Killing your credibility, more and more. And, what’s more, exemplifying my very point about your behavior, to a tee.
Ill try this another way. Your example assumes and requires those ranges of MMRs will all be queuing at the same time. And what about when they are rarely in those ranges, rarely that close to even, based on the main point already made by several people through out the thread? Seems that reading thing is croppiing up again.
Lol. Did you just pull the “I know you are, but what am I?”. How unfortunate. Well, you first, especially as the one who opened that can of worms despite failing in such a modest task yourself.
You don’t need to. You’ve been clear. What’s not obvious is your clarity on why it’s not going to have the effect you think it will.
What? Is that supposed to be some kind of declaration as to how and why Reforged ended up like it is? That’s simply another desperate grab at anything you can whip up to stay afloat; a moving of the goal post away from your initial arguments above. That’s very telling.
Well if you’re going to add that to the concersation: We all fought Bliz when the disaster that is WC3R was released, and a ton of progress has been made since. But back to the point of the MM system, the reason it’s the way it is the same as it was near the beginning of your thread.
You’ve made it clear that you’re content with your fingers in your ears, as evidenced by all the mistakes on who said what and ignoring what’s been laid out in front of you. You can have your “win”. We’re only able to explain it so many times before giving up on deaf ears.
Honestly it’s just disappointing that they are removing servers. I can’t believe they got rid of US East quietly. They didn’t even acknowledge the fact they removed an entire server.
The servers themselves have never been worse. I’m seeing melee units attacking over walls they never used to be able to.
If cost is an issue why did they remove host bots? Host bots are literally hosted by external users, which would save Blizzard money.
There is a problem with this idea of yours - individual player worth becomes much more pronounced in such a situation. If two players of similar MMR are matched together, their performance together is a very good indicator of how they’ll play and as such their performance as a team goes to show whether they earned that MMR or not. Sure, they might be faced against a much higher MMR team, but as we established that is an unavoidable fact of the game right now.
Now if we were to implement your idea, it would suddenly become a case of having the higher MMR half of the team to basically carry the one with less MMR, leading to a less fun experience for all concerned. At least when the 5600 MMR player was teamed up with the 5400 MMR player they knew they were roughly equal in terms of skill (At least that’s what it should mean) so there was no reason to get mad over that. With your system it would result in a ton of people getting carried by someone way better than them rather than them working as an actual team, instead being turned into an extra resource generator for the bigger MMR player.
Is the current system flawed? Yes, nothing is perfect.
But it’s one of the least broken things in the game right now. One that gets alleviated a ton once the game gets more players to dilute the spikes in individual player skill.