Imagine telling people that you own their ideas if they use your map editor to bring them to life.
“Custom Games are and shall remain the sole and exclusive property of Blizzard. Without limiting the foregoing, you hereby assign to Blizzard all of your rights, title, and interest in and to all Custom Games, including but not limited to any copyrights in the content of any Custom Games. If for any reason you are prevented or restricted from assigning any rights in the Custom Games to Blizzard, you grant to Blizzard an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide, unconditional, royalty free, irrevocable license enabling Blizzard to fully exploit the Custom Games (or any component thereof) for any purpose and in any manner whatsoever.”
Then if Blizzard want’s to for some reason take that game mode/map a step further, you have to obey and request made from them.
“You further agree that should Blizzard decide that it is necessary, you will execute any future assignments and/or related documents promptly upon receiving such a request from Blizzard in order to effectuate the intent of this paragraph.”
Lol talk about doing everything in your power to own other peoples ideas. All the business with China seems to be rubbing off.
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They probably don’t want another DOTA happening. They lost BIG time on that one. I don’t blame them.
I DO blame them. They just provide the tool. It’s the players that do the creative work. Imagine if everything you make in a program like Photoshop belongs to Photoshop. Doesn’t make sense.
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I don’t find it to be much different from WoW. they state in the EULA that they own your character and whatever items you get on them, meaning you can’t sell your character. Essentially you’re in Blizzard playroom and you’re playing with their toys.
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What kind of fool are you talking about? Why didn’t they put in the First Buyer’s rules, if a card was fired and a known / unknown company wanted to buy it, then Blizzard would be able to buy 1 at the highest bidder? And what did we get? Just stupid pick up as a communist!
Imagine if someone were to play your game, use your proprietary editor (Which you provided with the game free of charge, by the way) to create a custom game within your game, host that game on your game servers, then claim that you have no ownership of said custom game, even after clicking “Agree” on the EULA. Doesn’t make sense.
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If you think of something completely new it’s still YOUR idea. The people who did DOTA still did all the heavy lifting. Blizzard should back off.
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The game is not free of charge.
Modding is part of PC gaming culture (or at least, was at the time), and it was a highly requested features from players. Which means that company added modding support as a commercial argument, not out of charity.
Besides, this wouldn’t be enforceable in Europe.
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Did they, though? The concept of a MoBA had already been established with Aeon of Storms in Starcraft, and most of DotA’s systems and concepts (Hero units, last hit bounties, gold, inventory and items, leveling, neutral creeps, mana, fountains, defensive towers) were pulled directly from Warcraft 3.
There’s little that DotA can claim as a truly original concept/idea.
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Except most of the playerbase bought war3 for custom maps, not ranked.
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The creator of dota actually asked blizzard first in pitching his idea of creating dota 2. Blizzard was like “Aw no, it will be fine”. So the creator of dota just left and pitched it to other game companies and now blizzard wants to cry fowl. It was on them…
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Disgusting practices that will only alienate the most creative and important parts of the community.
But at least 6 or 7 people made a lot of money in the process.
At least they’re guaranteed to make money off of any who stay.
EULAs and ToS are not always necessarily legal documents and they are regularly filled with nonsense that could never be defended in a court and which has no legal basis and isn’t enforceable.
I believe that claiming whatever people make in a game engine belongs to the game engine’s owner is one of those claims. I don’t see how that could possibly be defended.
If you make something in Warcraft 3, it is your creative IP. Unless you, by your will, choose to give it to Blizzard or another entity (and Blizzard unilaterally claiming you do is not you agreeing to actually do that), it is still yours. If you chose to then make your IP in another game engine, that’s your legal right.
I think that what Blizzard are claiming is total BS and without any legal merit whatsoever. Companies pull BS like this in EULAs all the time. But companies don’t possess law-making powers and they can’t make you agree to something by telling you that you agree to it. You have to make a willed choice and affirmation such as by signing a contract. And an EULA that comes with a game is not a signed contract.
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Lmao so everyone who creates projects in Photoshop with your logic means ADOBE must own those peoples projects. Warcraft 3 Map Editor IS NOT FREE of charge if you have to pay for WARCRAFT 3 and that is included with the product. YOU pay to use PHOTOSHOP but that doesn’t mean ADOBE owns the rights to everything you create with PHOTOSHOP. Heres another example, YOU create a YOUTUBE video and upload it using YOUTUBE’S platform. So does that mean GOOGLE and YOUTUBE own the video you created because you used THEIR platform to upload it? Lets not forget about the video editing software you used to edit that VIDEO. So do the creators of the VIDEO EDITING software have some ownership of your content also? SMH
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Except here is a VERY different “story”.
You get all assets , engine, artwork, etc from Blizzard PLUS, Free …Marketing to a very wide audience.
In Photoshop YOU create everything.
Stop making pathetic comparation for the …sake of making them.
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First let’s kill that whole reply with this, they included it with the purchase back in the day. Then released it again for $40 and changed the TOS. Next so with YouTube when you upload your video (for free) you get free marketing because you get your video put in an algorithm for people to see it. So i guess they should own it too right? Actually if i remember correctly, you get marketing from youtube that’s worth BILLIONS. I mean they created everything on the platform like the algorithm for people to see your video, the html for the website, list goes on. Also i think you forgot about the whatever video editing software that person used. They created all the tools in that too. All you did was use the tools in either PHOTOSHOP or VIDEO EDITING software the company created. They didnt create YOUR idea though. POINT being the IDEA of whatever you created itself is ORIGINAL. YOU CAN’T OWN IDEAS. Lol communistic thinking is OVERRATED.
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So I just smashed your “ADOBE PHOTOSHOP” idea and you’ve run into new one for … unknown reasons.
Listen, Adobe ( and alike ) programs, THEY license you to CREATE your own things.
In W3 Blizzard DOES NOT give you license to their game engine, assets , etc. They give you freedom to create something FOR FUN ( if you chose to ) with everything there is in the game.
So again, you DON’T get license to create and then do whatever you want with your creation ( ala Adobe ). Never been like this, neither in W3 Classic nor Reforged.
If you are going to keep argumenting , at least please come with solid proof’s to back up your claim.
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I would be okay with that if they didn’t say pretty much if they “like” what you made. They can force you to work on it and help them monetize your idea that you created. At the end of the day you still put in the work to create that IDEA.
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