More Classic Blizzard games to GOG please

Starcraft 1 Original version, Diablo 2, and Warcraft 3 original version for GOG please.

GOG got Warcraft 1, 2, and Diablo 1 there already. This alone for me would be enough of an apology for Warcraft 3 Reforged.

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I mean…you have a cd-key, right?

What are you expecting gog to do, fire up a server using code they don’t have? the wc3 bnet1.0 servers are probably down now.

You can just download the original versions pretty easy. There’s tips literally everywhere at this point on how to do it, including on this forum. But aside from using a gateway that’s not bnet, there’s no way to get back old bnet.

Old Bnet isn’t for sale and it probably never will be.

Starcraft (the original not to be confused with the remaster) should be free, Diablo 2 can be easily downloaded from a torrent same with Warcraft 3, but I can’t confirm that. Starcraft should be called “Starcraft Anthology” because it combined both Starcraft & Brood War and in my opinion - Starcraft was the better game between the two of warcraft 3 and Starcraft. Basis for evidence is they made 4 expansions (if you include the Nova missions)

They have servers for Warcraft 2 up, if they released it there, surely they’d get servers for 3 as well. Though I do not see that happening.

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Might wanna reword that, mate. Anthology was the word you wanted.

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At the very least as a way for people to play their old Custom Campaigns.

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With GOG’s most recent change to their refund policy, I doubt you’ll see Blizzard or many other companies moving their games over to that platform.

I doubt people will Refund Blizzard’s Classic Games.

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Don’t underestimate folks capacity for being greedy. There are folks out there who will buy a game, and if they have the ability to return it and get all their money back after they’re done with it? They will.

If you read the update, you’ll know that GOG still reserves a right to deny a refund and they do it specifically for people trying to do this (buy a game, finish it, refund).

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Just because they ‘reserve the right to refuse a refund’ doesn’t mean that folks still aren’t going to try to abuse it.

You could buy a game, like Warcraft II for example (which is in GOG already) install it, burn through the campaign in a few days, then decide to get your money back and you can simply say that the game didn’t meet your expectations. That it didn’t work properly. That it was crashing on your system. You could invent any number of reasons to get a refund other than ‘I want my money back’ and GOG staff would be hard pressed to refuse.

In the past, when refund policies this generous have been implemented, the companies that implemented them ultimately had to cancel them in response to consumer greed. Gamestop for example, had to end their pre-owned refund guarantee, as folks were buying pre-owned games, playing them to completion and then returning them for their money back.

Now if this happens to GOG, which I guarantee it will, the folks over there have two choices. Wind back the policy to something less generous, or soldier on. Both are viable for them, because they’re not the ones that are paying back the consumers when they refund, but publishers and indie devs will respond by ending their relationships with GOG in order to minimize risk to their bottom line.

Personally I think you’re dramatically overestimating how many people would be dishonest enough to do that.

If people really wanted to not spend money on those games they could just pirate them. The process you described seems a little… involved. More trouble than it’s worth.

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I’m all for this.

SC:BW isn’t going to be on GOG while the Remaster exists

Very much this. GOG already operates on a trust system, since all their games are DRM free. Nothing stops you from grabbing a copy of a installer and just use that to play. Yet they’re still in business aren’t they.

I’m not, because history has shown with other companies holding equally generous policies that folks have abused it, leading to said companies either restricting said policies or ditching them entirely.

I will never underestimate human greed.

What history, exactly? And what companies?

Or are you just going to give a blanket statement and not provide examples?

You can use google, it’s not hard. But I’ll give you one example just to sate your curiousity, so I’m not making an ‘empty statement’.

The company? L. L. Bean, which is a fashion company. They previously had a 100% satisfaction guarantee in place, an extremely generous policy which allowed folks to essentially return items at any time, as there was no window in place where if you tried to return the product outside of it, you were refused.

That meant that many people abused the system, with a former employee of the company saying that during her time there over 70% of returns were questionable, with one man coming in with a garbage bag full of clothes from their store which smelled and looked like they’d barely survived a fire. That man walked away with hundreds of dollars worth of gift cards for the store.

After years, and years of abuse, they clamped down on the policy and significantly changed it, so now, you have a year in which you can freely return clothes that don’t meet your standards. Anything beyond that is either refused or you need to talk to management.

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006129837?product=gog

How often can I refund my games? Is there some sort of limit?
We trust that you’re making informed purchasing decisions and will use this updated voluntary Refund Policy only if something doesn’t work as you expected.
This is why there are no limits but instead, we reserve the right to refuse refunds in individual cases.

So your example seems like something they’d use their right to refund on an individual case

Yes, which is something multiple people have pointed out, but keep the following in mind:

  1. Perception of Risk

Publishers and Developers do not like risk, in fact, no business does. They’ll take some, but they’ll avoid it where they can. This is why GOG doesn’t have many new titles on their storefront, because the publishers/developers of those games think the risk of piracy is too great for them to sell their games on a storefront which forbids the use of DRM systems like Denuvo (even though most gamers, myself included, agree that Denuvo is trash). Throw in an extremely generous refund policy which goes above and beyond any other platform, and the risk of profit loss becomes too high.

  1. Human Error / Lack of Care

We’ve all been there. It’s monday morning or friday afternoon, we’re tired, we’re grumpy, we don’t want to deal with work and we just can’t be bothered to give a damn. That affects judgement. Someone who might have, on any other day, scanned through a case to make sure there’s no abuse, just can’t be bothered at that moment and they just wash their hands of it and approve it. Or someone makes a genuine mistake and approves a refund they shouldn’t have. Either way that’s money the developer loses when they get their paycheck from GOG.