Remove AT vs RT, there’s enough activity for both on their own. AT vs RT atm makes no sense, I got paired with a 1-2 3900mmr ally against a 6k+ mmr AT team the other day, utter nonsense.
Tone down taurens or add more big maps. They just disrupt the strategic aspect of the game too much. No way to counter them efficiently without chims / griphs / wyrms which is very tricky to achieve especially on small maps where you can’t easily expand even if you’re 2x better than your opponents (if you disagree you probably don’t play high level 2v2 and never passed the 6k mmr mark).
There’s a clear imbalance in terms of effort:reward ratio here that needs to be looked into.
That’s because 6k+ players were searching for too long so the matchmaking paired them with first team to play against as far as I know. It’s not about AT or RT because we also play against players and teams that are up to 2000 MMR higher then us and often against 1500 MMR lower then us. Don’t know how to fix it, maybe make matchmaking more strict, I don’t mind to search for 2 minutes for a good game, in 2v2 I never waited longer then 1 minute for a game.
Yeah the current game search time is too small. Much smaller than in very popular games like Counter Strike despite having 100 times fewer active players.
I wouldn’t mind searching for 5-10 minutes if it meant having a proper game.
It’s coming back in all modes, so there’s no chance of it being removed. Instead, they are adding MMR weighting so that AT teams face stronger opponents if they are not also AT in order to account for the natural advantage premade teams have.
You might be willing, but most people are not willing to wait long. If people wait more than a couple minutes they start coming to their game’s forum and posting about how dead the game is and how there’s obviously nobody playing because they didn’t find a game in 2 seconds.
Also, for the record- if you post in the wrong section, you can actually change the forum category for your post after the fact, you don’t need to delete and repost.
No, it won’t. They tried for over a year to make AT only play against other AT, and guess what? People can’t find games anymore, and they are doing what’s best right now. They will probably adjust MMR weight more according to our feedback. If this game had a big player base where AT could normally find games, I would never suggest them to enable AT vs RT, but right now, that’s not the case. Also, for those who don’t like this change there are many ways to find your own team or play 1v1, why do you even want to play team modes if you are playing solo only and then constantly rant about bad teammates? In this current patch AT can’t do nothing to find games.
Overall I think it’s better that friends are able to play the game together than not. So rather than making that not possible, the best thing to do is to try to take actions that will improve the fairness of games without preventing people from playing together entirely.
What’s not how it works? The developmental decisions on Reforged are dictated by your predictions? That’s how it works?
Mmmkay.
It was AT vs RT at release. It was then changed a bit ago to prevent it. And now, it’s going back to it’s original state. The chances of reverting the reversion are essentially zero, especially when new code has been added to facilitate the reversion.
Dislike this. Why should super-strong Allies play vs RT people? Just to make 100-0 or 100-10. Why? Is the game dedicated to superstrong players only??? I have another perspective and proposal for you here : Why not leave AT play vs AT, and if not enough games, those “strong" AT players can easily search RT, individually. This + fairness x+x vs x+x or x+y vs x+y will result in super nice games, and would bring the game back alive again. The secret is not to reinvent the wheel, but look at W3 Patch 1.14. The matchmaking there was x=x, y=y. And it resulted in top tier games, equal for everyone to play. Strong+Strong vs Strong+Strong, or Strong+Weak vs Strong+Weak. It was called BALANCE, and it made the game FAIR. LavaHound is 100% correct, and I think W3 Reforged should be about balance and fairness, not about the utter abuse and amusement of the top20, playing AT vs RT. It’s an abomination. Sorry for being blunt, but it’s the truth. @Blizzard , wanna make W3 fair and balanced again? Look at 1.14 Matchmaking. Please do something for the people that absolutely Adore and LOVE this game! Please. And appreciate!
Friends are good to be able to play together, but versus other ““friends””. Not Friends with an elaborated Strategy vs random 1500 mmr people forming a RT in 2vs2. That is abuse and it is a disgrace!! Look at W3 1.14 please, Matchmaking was healthy there, and game was even. Blizzard could could start from 1.14 and optimize thatone for more games.
Why can’t Blizzard make W3 Reforged as a subscription model? I would gladly like to pay few dollars per month to play this game, but for it to be fair! Players have left the game, because of super frustrating matchmaking. Not all people want to play 1vs1. RT 2vs2 especially is a joke, and it is a battle of utter unfairness and frustration. Bring back W3 1.14 patch, and I will gladly pay 5-10$ per month to play. And I’m sure other players would come back to this game aswell. Who loved Warcraft, does it forever!
That’s not how it works in any other game I’ve played. “worst” case in League of Legends, there’s a solo/duo queue which allows 1 friend and you play against only other solos and duos, and there’s a “flex” queue that allows larger groups, but you can still queue solo. Friends can totally play against solos and vice versa and it works totally fine in that game. Same is true of Overwatch and most any other MOBAs, which originate from games like War3.