What do you guys think is happening at blizzard in response to Reforged? Are people being fired? Moved? Replaced? New leads? New dev’s? Teams?
Is Reforged losing money? Short term? Long term? Both?
What are the potential repercussions from all of this? Do we see a change in Blizzard advertising? Road maps? Strategy? Anything good? Or just all bad?
If you’re bored enough, let’s hear it. Lol.
Most likely no-one will get fired since it was a team effort along with Activision being apart of it. The current director and Devs are doing an amazing job and can only do what was given to them on a platter. Though there would be some possible reprimands about the marketing scheme from this point on and how they will promise and deliver to the gamers. It’s possible about the discussions of whether to keep the lemon Developers or not, or keep them to smaller tasks in the future so it’s not to hurt their feelings. Between the Blizz Devs and lemon Devs, there’s a huge skill gap between them upon the observation of a few animations. Other then that, They might have some Devs from different departments to come in and out to assist, but they won’t stake a heavy team of reinforcements and commit to it. I could be wrong, but I’m thinking to close as possible as what a corporation would do in a 50% damage reduction of the situation, and go by all means of damage control.
I reckon they’re trying to fix it up, but they can’t go all out and fix it with rush hot patches or fortnightly patch releases. I don’t think they can do much about it. It’s just one of those things where they want too, but will do it if they can and when they can. On top of that, if they release a patch, it has to be alot and important, but it also has to be “alot” within the confines where it doesn’t break the game with the current Dev firepower they have devoted to Reforged. They would have to script or patch things up and go through various tests where it doesn’t lead into a domino effect of problems again.
As for Reforged losing money, they probrably will due to the critic reviews and name it has. I don’t know about the WC 3 fanbase, but it could remain pretty strong and will recover bit by bit. This game has a alot of potential and the fact that major tourneys are still held with renowned celebrity players.
Hopefully with all this tomfoolery that’s been happening, Activision will become aware and listen to the gamers now instead of treating us as $$$ consumers. It won’t change them completely, but they’ll add the Reforged incident to their methodical list of “what not to do to upset the consumers” instead of “being sorry, learning and not wanting to hurt the loyal gamers/customers” when making the next “big $$$” game. Not only will Activision learn (hopefully) but outside companies like Riot or Valve for example will hear about this, take note of Reforge’s incident and not pull an Activision, and will take better care of their own team of Devs while appeasing their loyal customers. Companies already try to avoid being like EA and Bethseda as it is and they definitely study each other as big gaming publishers usually do.
I tried my best OP, I hope this works for you.
What do you guys think is happening at blizzard in response to Reforged?
Not a lot, probably some pizza and soft drinks. They might even have someone there that plays the guitar.
Are people being fired?
Nope.
Moved?
Maybe.
Replaced?
I don’t know.
New leads?
Only of the variety that plugs into walls.
New dev’s?
Oh, I thought they were all graduates.
Teams?
Like, co-op type teams… or team-teams?
Is Reforged losing money?
Nah, I don’t reckon.
Short term?
Nope.
Long term?
Negative.
Both?
Both are wrong.
What are the potential repercussions from all of this?
They will eventually run out of pizza since there’s no new funds to buy any.
Do we see a change in Blizzard advertising?
Probably only on the jobs board for an in-house pizza chef.
Road maps?
Wrong company mate, Google is that way ==> (or is it the other way, I need a map?)
Strategy?
One of my favourite strategies in Castle Fight is to spam air elementals. It really annoys noob team mates and the enemy can’t do squat once I build a Linker.
Anything good?
The pizza.
Or just all bad?
The running out of pizza money.
Oh I forgot to answer the strategy one. One of my strategy on Custom Hero Footies is to take Armor devotion (which is OP early), healwave and an aoe or serpents and tech rush a base on a normal game. You see with the Armor Devotion aura, it counters the enemies bases armor bonus which allows me to easily invade and rush them. With Armor Devotion, I normally tech Armour by 2 and Attack by 3 just to give that edge of firepower and to synergise and compliment it well with Armor Devotion. Tizmech aura works just as nicely as it detracts and debuffs surrounding enemy’s armour, but I make sure to buff my tech armour to at least 4 and attack damage to 3 to synergise it very well with that aura. The same thing with Unholy Aura, but with Unholy Aura I can expand my build with golems, mercs, creeps and tech. I’d normally take Druids, vengance, Pheonix or Deathtower as an ult. The harsh counter is AOEs or being out-teched. The healwave can undo the aoe’s damage, but not if they devote an entire build to it, let alone a whole team.
Activision proper is doing just fine having the top selling game franchise and now a top selling mobile franchise. It’s the Blizzard division (which people refuse to accept) that still isn’t hurting because WCIII:R was a side project that was never part of their main financial plans. If anything the lesson learned would be “don’t waste time trying to update 18 year old games with small fanatic playerbases”.
The main teams will have continued focus on their actual projects, WoW, OW and Diablo.
That’s what I’m worried about but that’s how I see it as well. It just becomes a “statistic”. Activision care about what impacts the $$$ and don’t really pay attention to the gamers on an interactive/personal level. If we’re lucky, Activision might let a Blizzard representative take heat and allow them to apologize in order for their stocks to not take a dive.
low budget and diversity hiring on different levels
they guy who said “don´t you have phones?” didn´t get fired…
…so no, no one is being fired.
The game has launched, it’s somewhat playable. The reputation of the game is permanently damaged so ressources are redirected to WoW and Diablo so they can carry this dumpster fire without suffering further layoffs.
Esports will probably be canceled soon because it’s too buggy. But otherwise…
I remember trying to watch Dreamhack last week. What a $h1tshow.
I’m guessing they freaked out initially, but very little will change.
Classic teams will turn out insignificant updates at their usual sluggish pace. They’ll put ladder and MMR back in and act like they split the atom.
No one will be fired, classic team won’t get an influx of devs to fix the problem. The game will be smoothed out a little, optimized, the lighting will be fixed, but the game won’t be improved in the way we all hope and dream.
The current director and Devs are doing an amazing job […]
They tried to appeal to both Warcraft 3 veterans, as well as new players, who may prefer newer graphics. They failed on both. That’s an amazing job for you?
I reckon they’re trying to fix it up, but they can’t go all out and fix it with rush hot patches or fortnightly patch releases. I don’t think they can do much about it.
Of course they can. Activision-blizz has more than enough resources to do it, if they wanted it. Their actions throughout development, release and post-release, so far, show neglect, rather than anything else. They don’t care.
If they cared, they would not have broken the original game. If they cared, they would not have introduced new EULA. If they cared, they would have added custom games and custom campaigns in one of the first patches. As well as fixing the terrible performance. Speaking of which…
This game has a alot of potential and the fact that major tourneys are still held with renowned celebrity players.
Yeah and the tournament was a disaster with multiple disconnects happening through it’s course. And even those “renowned” players are mostly playing on classic mode :D. Even the tournament itself had to be put on classic graphics to help with desyncs at least a bit 
Activision will become aware and listen to the gamers now instead of treating us as $$$ consumers.
And until Activision-blizz changes for the better, and fixes Reforged, I will be playing the real Warcraft 3 on older patches.
I mean, they all seem to be like that. First the “don’t you guys have phones” guy. Then, in their “apology” letter, Blizzard managed to insult the fans further with lines like:
“we’re sorry to those of you who didn’t have the experience you wanted”
… Blaming the fans for their own failures. That seems to be the attitude of the company.
Well yeah that’s the truth, I do enjoy Reforged at this stage. I think the graphics are awesome as well as the new MMR system. I’ve never taken ladder seriously until now as I’ve always been a 50/50 winrate player back in the heydays. Now I’m going for 70% and it won’t be long until I unlock the Frost Wyrm potrait :d. As mentioned before, I don’t think the Devs have a hand in this as much as Activision do. Activision are a big bunch of Corp guys that have deadlines and demand money. To the face, they’ll say they want to appease the “gamers” if they even use that word, but in reality, it’s a stock market game for them.
the majority of the classic team will be working on something else already.
some ppl are put aside to work on a few fixes for reforged for the next 12 months, expect bugfixes and not big patches.
money is being pulled from that project as it was a desaster. activision blizzard is just gonna eat the cost and not throw more money at it.
imo the game is ruined for good.
they placed pre orders well in advance to get a rough idea of how many people would be interested in reforged.
it was lower than they expected.
the budget was cut down until there only was money to make the new models look somewhat good, and very little left to do testing and polish.
the game is about to be released and blizz hopes it will at least make the money back they spend on it.
but it bombed ( no surprises there to anyone with half a brain…) and people requested a refund on a massive scale.
nearly anyone who worked on reforged has been moved onto other projects.
there are only a few people left working on reforged now. and their goal is to make multiplayer slightly more stable before they too move on.
I agree with you. The launch was a disaster. Along with the bad reputation, further sales of the game will get stagnant and fall eventually. This game was made to fail, and it is not worth to invest more money here. The thing we must do as customers is stop the pre-purchases no matter what marketing scheme they come up with.
This game was a marketing stunt to push revenues, nothing more.
Classic teams will turn out insignificant updates at their usual sluggish pace. They’ll put ladder and MMR back in and act like they split the atom.
So, on a scale from 1 - 10 in which 1 is the lowest and 10 the highest of hours played and how much attention you have been paying I’m going with 0?.. It’s been implemented for weeks now, in fact MMR is supposedly the determining factor of your matches.
I mean, they all seem to be like that. First the “don’t you guys have phones” guy. Then, in their “apology” letter, Blizzard managed to insult the fans further with lines like:
“we’re sorry to those of you who didn’t have the experience you wanted”
… Blaming the fans for their own failures. That seems to be the attitude of the company.
So, what you’re doing right there is twisting the meaning to fit your own perception. That is what happens when you take things out of context. Please, stop your silly hate train… It’s getting tedious.
I’m not saying Blizzard did not f*** up, they obviously released too soon and could have changed their marketing strategy to make it more clear what had changed, that does not excuse you and other people’s need to jump on a hate train. You are an adult. Act like one.
Blizzard’s Reponse:
We’re sorry we didn’t live up to your expectations.
Players Reponse
They’re blaming US for their failure now rolls eyes
Fired
Definitely not, it’s not easy to find Devs.
Moved
You always move your Devs around.
Replaced
Isn’t that sort of fired and/or moved? In which case look above.
Leads
Only needed during the development phase, not so much during post-release phase (unless it’s an MMO or actively developed game like Expansions/DLC etc.)
New Devs
Lol, only if other’s stop.
Teams
Wrong game, not OverWatch.
Losing Money
Nope
Short Term
Nah
Long term
^
Both
Double ^
Repercussions
None. You’re all addicted to Blizzard games.
Advertising
Hardly, they didn’t actually do anything illegal.
Roadmaps
Unlikely, it’s not the style of Blizzard to show off what they’re working on.
Strategy
Earn more money…
Anything Good
All’s well in this World, just look at China.
Anything Bad
Well, we’re doomed regardless of what we do unless we invent faster than light travel.
I don’t think anything is really “happening.” They got their money, they are going to let the rage blow over, and they will bug-fix and introduce some minor features every few months to “support the game for years to come.” But we are not going to get some feature-rich free DLC as a “we’re sorry about all the stuff we promised” response from Blizzard.