I have some discussion with some people in a lot of topic and they give me this doubt.
Is Wc3 Crossplayable with Reforged?
For a lot of time a lot of people and miself said “yes” but now I start to doubt it.
Let me put it in this way:
If Reforged is this and nothing more (“is still a beta” we can put it away, they have 2 weeks. This is clearly the final product that only need some polish) the people that play ONLY Melee and don’t like the new Skin why they even bother to buy the game. Because if the Wc3 will be crossplayable it’s means that all the update Reforged will have even Wc3 will get it and for free because you need to keep them playable.
So this let me think in a grave scenario put it by some people in 2018 who look at reforged as a replacement of Wc3.
Like: “yes you can keep play Wc3 but you will be not play Vs the reforged one”
So the fact that “we keep the comunity together” is a lie.
So we have 4 option:
Warcraft 3 and Reforged will be crossplayable: Wc3 will get all the uptade for free and the people who don’t like reforged will get all for free. This is stupid for me but is an option.
Warcraft 3 and Reforged will be Crossplayable IF you buy reforged: like “you can play Wc3 but if you want to make Ladder or Melee vs Reforged player you need to buy Reforged”. But this is stupid because “why I need to buy something I don’t like for keep playing my old game”
Reforged and Wc3 are NOT crossplayable: so The “keep the comunity together” was a lie so the comunity will split.
Reforged will replace Wc3: I see Mounths ago the option in the reforged campaign that you can select what campaign you want to play. The Classic one or the reforged one. We will even have a ON/OFF switch for the the skin if we want to play in reforged with the old skin or not. So why give us this option if Wc3 still exist? Why bring all the Classic into reforged as an’option but keep on RoC and TFT? Simply, because they will not exist. Is just my theory but will make sense.
I’m sorry for my lack of languages, I hope you understand my theory and give me some feedback from your POV
Look at SC remaster, i didn’t buy it but i can play it with HD content turned off. The same goes for WC3: i have the old game? Ok, Blizzard is going to allow me (or maybe even make it free for everyone) to download reforged with HD graphics turned off. So if you want to play the “main game” you need to download reforged from launcher and the version is split in this way: classic = HD off, reforged = HD on.
So classic is just reforged downloadable for free with HD off, old Bnet (and old client) will either be shut down, or will just remain as a unofficial/ unsupported way of playing the game. Blizz is counting on people to be able to play reforged for free with HD off. (I know i kinda repeated the concept multiple times, but its just to be as clear as possible on how in my opinion things will be managed with that “crossplayability”).
Yes there is crossplay. Those who said otherwise are probably dreaming of the unreal reforged version and are just waiting the game only to play the campaign on their potato laptops. Bad bad examples.
Old client has no classic female model for DH for example, and has no functionality for “skin switch”, it would result in desyncs. I doubt the old client will go anywhere.
My best bet old client will automatically start reforged download from the launcher (thus old Bnet will be inacessible).
First of i thank all of you for the feedback. But the question still remain. Why someone who’ll play only ladder and don’t like the reskin even bother to buy reforged if he get all for free?
They keep repeating it there will be crossplay in ceremony and live panel at Blizzcon. It would be a big lie in the face for a lot of people. It’s a good idea to increase the player base, MMR match making must be here for fair games, we need some fresh meat with Reforged.
Yes but we need to know how exacly we’re gonna make it.
If crossplay for them is “reforged replace Warcraft3 so the old client will be shut down” is an half lie. Because yes, the comunity is toghere but the game is only one. Just the “base” edition is free (like Starcraft) and you want the rest you buy the “reforged upgrade”. It make Warcraft more like Starcraft2 with a lot of dlc-upgrade.
Don’t get me wrong. I like the idea. But a lot of purist I think they will be pissed.
The question is how you define crossplay.
For me crossplay means i can stick with the old client ( have the same chat inferace, can create serveral accounts aso…) and can play against people/friends who prefer to play reforged.
Crossplay = TWO systems ONE Matchmaking
For Activision Blizzard Crossplay is one Client one Matchmaking, but the client got the option to show the game in the old graphicstyle.
So thats not realy corssplay if i have to change the gameclient, but i can live with it as long as they dont change the old graphics and models - but they will - in collection there is allready a menu for classic skins and/or portais in the beta…
In starcraft remastered case, the crossplay cannot happen between old and new starcraft since they are different versions. For instance, 1.30 should play with 1.30.
In China a lot of people who never buy but download the game are still playing the old version that has no crossplay with the new version. The free version of starcraft and the paid version of starcraft offer different selections of graphics in one same game that keeps updating by the BN client.
If one buys SCR, they can press F5 to get the exact same game with the recent SC free version. But they are the same game with different graphic settings.
There was one thing happened. Before SCR released, there had been some update to change the game for fitting the future SCR. Unfortunately, since Blizzard influenced something like control feeling or so, all pro gamers quitted and stayed to play the old version until they changed it back. I hope they won’t make this happen again.