I was noticing how bad her dps is compared to other heroes,how easily her Starfall gets countered, and how useless her Scout is.
Do you think a few seconds of invulnerability on Starfall is nice? or Having her Owl scout attack and deal light Damage?
Scout is useless in 1v1 but in team games its kind of strong.
But in team games just getting an aerial unit or shade is not hard so idk if its redundant now?
Aura is good. Starfall needs 5 seconds invunerability minimum.
Scout should be like Rexxar Bird.
Fire arrows use too much mana.
Her kit is weird.
Starfall dont fit in. She should be pure DPS
Like the Ulti needs to change. Scout can stay.
A channel makes no sense on a squsihy hero like her
Well Lore wise Starfall is her signature they can’t just change that. I agree with 5 seconds invulnerability would be amazing !
Maybe scout should be modified to dispel?
Scout could be removed potentially.
5 second invunerable is good idea aswell.
But replace with what? Maybe leap? She rides a tiger.
Maybe for escape and bonus attack speed?
I use her in 90% of my Elf vs Elf matches…
and no i don’t think she’s weak at all.
For a race that has mostly ranged units, she’s a great support hero and has one of the best synergized auras in the game.
Starfall is fine, if anything I’d say just lower the cooldown. I don’t think it needs invulnerability…
And I don’t think she’s a weak hero at all. i think all the elf heroes are really good for different reasons. keeper is the best power creeper, dh and warden are incredible control heroes and priestess is a great support hero.
I also use scout almost every time I pick her as a secondary hero - and place orb on her for increased dps. Scout is underrated. you only need one rank in scout to give you a right click on hero maphack, then you can level up searing arrows if you want.
Apart from her aura she does not bring a great deal on ladder?
Searing arrows burns way to much mana and in and the NE mirror DH/Warden can harass her with impunity. Her creeping is also inferior to Keeper and she simply cannot harass like any of the other three heroes.
Scout is also redundant as NE has the advantage over other races of being able to place wisps around the map that can still collect resources. Why double up on that?
Starfall, feels like a win more ultimate and is very easy to interrupt. If there was some form of immunity it would be much more useful in the few games you can get to level 6. If you get your DH to level 6 he in many respects acts like a win condition for NE.
I have found her less than appealing in 1v1 even as a second hero. Both Naga and Alch bring way more to the table. However, as a second hero in 4v4 or something her aura becomes pretty useful.
What I don’t find compelling wasting Talents on scout if I play a race that has Wisps,Sentinels,added vision, and Shadowmeld…it is pointless.
Starfall gets easily interrupted and has an insanely long cooldown, I have seen people use Starfall defensively in order to push enemies away or deny an area, beyond that she gets interrupted,killed, or they move away.
I feel that Scout needs an additional ability,maybe make it so it attacks and helps improve her dps and Starfall should either get buffed in terms of damage ( from 50 to 65 maybe) or get an invulnerability or cd reduction.
Honestly now that u remind me of sentinel and scout the ability needs to go
all of these things work completely different. are elf players using mass huntresses, or even making hunts in all matchups? not really. are they doing it specifically in Elf vs Elf? no, it’s an archer meta. i haven’t played an elf that’s used mass hunts on me in literally a month+.
A scout owl can be right clicked on a hero and literally follow it around revealing every move they make. that is a pointless skill?
I also mentioned that priestess is often used as a SUPPORT hero meaning second or third (whatever). The only time I use her as a first hero is in Elf vs Elf, and i DO NOT use scout owl, I use searing arrows. If I use her as a secondary hero, I get one point in owl scout (not a “pointless” skill), and I get searing arrow/trueshot to level up since you only need one skillpoint in owl scout to work.
I don’t really care what forum players think, it’s gotten me to top 30 solo and i have an 89% win rate. If you wanna be stubborn that’s your problem not mine. works for me, and priestess is a great hero in my book. I don’t think she needs a buff at all, especially to her aura or searing arrows.
Congrats, and fair point about scout, even though I still feel it is underwhelming. However Starfall needs a buff !
Some heroes will always be situational.
You can never make every hero viable.
Thats just how the metagame works.
POTM is for NE dittos, early archer harass or big team battle.
Then whats the point of lvl 3 scout?
Should scout lvl 2 and 3 be buffed?
So that it could be situationally picked over searing arrows?
Then should the same buff idea be applied to far sight?
Starfall is one of the weakest lvl 6s in the game, as it can be interrupted by anything including Ensare.
Her fire arrows are good. They use lots of mana, but can kill workers pretty darn quick and you can mana regen at your wells for a second go.
I actually like her owl. It’s invulnerable. And if you get a level 2 and 3 owl, it’s pretty OP as you can follow your opponent for most of the game if you remember to recast the owl every 2 minutes.
I usually got auro and owl.
Her dps is low if you sacrifice true shot aura, not only do you deal less damage, you will also be weakening your ranged units that benefit from it.
Scout needs to do more, same with far sight, and Starfall needs something like a cooldown reduction or damage increase.
people saying scout and far sight need to do more are not understanding the power of map reveal.
that’s why maphack is such a problem when people use it. Map reveal is one of the most powerful aspects of an RTS game. Remember when Sentinel was an issue when huntress started with it a few months ago?
Scout owl is FINE.
Starfall is FINE. It’s a balanced ultimate. DO you use starfall when you are playing against a shadow hunter that has hex? Or maybe a Tauren Chieftain that went war stomp (first of all, why would you use poTM as a primary hero vs orc in the first place…or vs Human…) no. You have to get rid of the counters to it first (silence/kill the stun heroes) then starfall can be used safely.
These forums have seriously turned into really low level, or 4v4 players trying to imply that they understand this game. You don’t.
are you that lazy that you didn’t look up the skill online to see what the difference between different levels of scout does? I’ll just post the difference between owl scout levels for you to see:
Owls are invulnerable and can be controlled. Higher level Owls last longer, can see further, and are faster.
The Owl can be incredibly important when used to camp over the enemy’s army.
It’s pretty low-level noob thinking to assume you have to level up two skills til ultimate all the time. These are situational things that you need to give you an edge in a game.
A small map like turtle rock with 60 seconds of owl scout is extremely powerful. And the low mana cost means you can indefinately keep an owl right clicked on a hero to essentially give you map hack. I don’t understand why you (EternalShade) aren’t understanding that, after i’ve explained it to you. All the 2 and 3 skill does is give you more duration…so they’re even better than the first skill point…why does it need a buff? lol map reveal is already friggin good.
I mean you can bring up far sight into an argument, but they’re two different skills that work differently. The only thing they have in common is that they are map reveal spells - owl scout lasts much longer and can be used in different ways. Far sight is not comparable - and to answer your question, yeah it prolly could use a buff but it will always be overshadowed by spirit wolf and chain lightning.
Priestess level 1 searing arrow already does a ton of dps (in conjunction with trueshot) and at lvl 3, you can have one skill in each of the skills and she’s still a fantastic hero with more utility than any other.
but like i said, i don’t expect you to listen. I have ran into players that are like 40-90 on ladder. many of them. Literally a ladder that is designed to make you 50%, people still defy the odds because they are stubborn.
But you dont get lvl 3 owl lvl 3 arrows lvl 3 aura.
Its usually Aura (1) Searing (2) and owl (3) prioirty after ulti and 1 lvl in it.
Everything can have it’s use sometimes.
Even underpowered abilities.
As long as they provide a niche.
Which is what POTM’s abilities do.
Keep in mind that if you have map control through Owl Scout, you can prevent your opponent from ever leaving base in fear of harass. You can creepjack constantly. You can dodge all ganks. After you’re done with all of that you can still reskill.