Takes forever to find a game. Please find a solution. After you disabled premade teams to find games quickly vs partly random teams q times are huge. 3 years of finding games quickly and jumping into a 4v4 with a buddy and now 1 or 2 games in horus of waiting.
Yep, and people constantly brought that up in all the debates about it. But the ones who wanted it separate won out. So now everyone, including them, are reaping the fruits of their labor.
There isn’t a solution outside allowing them to queue together again. Unless there’s a large surge in playership, and specifically in teams.
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or a proper mmr system where bad premades play vs same skill randoms or slightly higher and high mmr premades play versus higher mmr random teams. i mean the client if full of bugs. bnet should be for fun and try harding for wc3 champions ladder
q times are not “huge” if you go solo. If you only have 1 friend to play with, then play 2v2.
I myself have suggested that the matching system simply give the random side an MMR advantage to compensate for the premade advantage, but they clearly didn’t choose to go that way. Ultimately, the community decided they would rather have better matches than short wait times.
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i like to play 4v4 with my one friend, also 3v3 but q times are huge and playing 4v4 with a friend is not possible anymore. no duo q. that was teh best change reforged introduced. duo q with a friend and now after 3 years rip duo q.
Unfortunately Blizzard decided that partial premades were still a significant advantage.
how can the game profit from not finding any games and not allowing friends to play together and be able to find games?
Well, it’s not a live service microtransaction game, so it doesn’t really profit anyway.
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yea agreed, very unfortunate, like i said everything is so bugged, stats are not even working, leavers in every 2nd 4v4 game when u play alone but playing with a friend is too much okay blizz that doesnt make any sense
Well if you were on this forum prior to these ch anges, you’d find that the sentiment was generally “AT vs RT is unfair, unfun, and makes people leave games more.”
So they made the change, and now the threads are all “we can’t find a game as an AT”
The community made its bed and now is sleeping in it.
Removing partial AT has been the BEST thing to happen to this game.
Since then matchmaking has been fair. And I’ve been able to hard carry games.
Despite leavers/troll/tkers (especially tkers), I’ve been able to achieve close to 90% win rate in 4v4.
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As long as the game gets past the 10 second mark without someone leaving lol
But just saying, you getting a 90% win rate is not indicative of fair matches 
But, that is largely the result of a seperate issue where the game tends to group the strong players on one side and weak players on the other (in terms of MMR) in all team modes, but especially 2v2
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I made a lot of threads but now I know they will do nothing about it, we stopped playing 3v3 because its not fun anymore, some days we were searching 1 hour for games and played only 2 really unfair matches. The funny thing is when you find an AT, if they are really good lets say in top of the ladder you will play against them every time because there are no more AT that search in the same time. There is no matchmaking, there is only matchfinding. 2v2 can find sometimes okey matches but in last few days we play against guys that are 1000 MMR above us or 1000 MMR below us, also the LVL system seems like it does nothing in matchmaking, its only visually thing because I played in 1v1, 2v2 against guys that are 130 lvl’s above me. If the matchmaking is working like it should they could make AT work against RT. Pair higher MMR players against lower AT MMR players or allow only partial AT to play against full AT, the problem in this is that some players would be playing in a partial team but RT will be playing only against RT like now, so maybe thats the easiest way for them to try it because we all now they will not fix the matchmaking. The updates they put are nice, they are changing the “meta” but I think they should focus on main problems:
- Matchmaking is not working like it should
- Leavers and griefers are a big problem
- Servers are really bad
- Optimization of the game is unbelievably bad, I cant play classicHD on steady 100 FPS (it has random stutters and frame drops to 50 FPS even after 2.0.2), Reforged is on 40 FPS (I have a really good laptop)