How can people say the graphics are barely improved?

One of the custom maps I play (Werewolf Transylvania) has a visual bug caused by Reforged graphics, so I swapped to Classic graphics to fix the problem. The moment I loaded into the map I was completely disgusted by the classic graphics. It was so bad that I considered it unplayable. The models were so blurry and the terrain resolution was so low. How can people say that Reforged barely improved the graphics? Seriously play on Reforged max graphics for 3 days and swap back to Classic and tell me what you think.

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I don’t think anyone is arguing that the graphics are inferior. What they are complaining about is the shift in style, or that the new graphics cause weird lag spikes, particularly when panning fast. Most people feel the new graphics are overall better, but that is it, and does not make up for the massive amount of bugs, and lack of features.

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The graphics aren’t perfect, but it’s a LOT better to look at than classic… especially if you look at this stuff on a 4k tv, it’s a big difference.

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I don’t think a true Wc3 fan would be disgusted by the classic graphics…

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My post is about people saying the graphics barely improved not that they have not improved at all. Also I get constant 120+ fps, so the lag is probably due to weak hardware.

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That’s because the “classic graphics” are not how the game used to be, smart guy. There’s a thousand bug reports out there about the classic graphics looking like trash.

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People with hardware less than a year old that is capable of playing modern titles on ultra settings are experiencing stuttering on camera pans. So no, it is not a hardware problem. My hardware isn’t the best in the world, but I have no problems with modern titles and run most on medium-high settings, and yet I had a few stutters myself.

As to people specifically saying the graphics are “barely improved” you would have to ask them why they said that, not create a new post on the subject, because that is not a commonly held opinion.

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This isn’t true been playing since Reforged came out and haven’t been able to notice a difference while playing. And yes I’ve played the original for quite some time. (Replying to the guy who said classic is now trash as wel)

classic is much sharper, easier to identify units in large battles… obviously that only matters if you play competitive ladder though… and it has smoother/higher frame rates (IME)

reforged is fine for campaign… but please don’t hate on classic :frowning:

there’s literally NO shadows in classic mode, don’t bs me, Blizzard stan.

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If you mean just textures, I don’t think there’s anybody saying they are better in classic. But the new models look too plastic, they lost some of the iconic style of the original game and some are hard to distinguish. Thinking that wc3 died to get these graphics in 2020, pretty big disappointment imo.

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I have a mid-range PC and have not noticed any stutters so far on max settings. Using a RX 480 with a I5-7600k.

Some people just complain about terrain, shadows, lighting but not about the graphics of the units themselves, I think we all can agree that’s the only thing blizzard did well for warcraft III reforged.

Another blatant lie I’ve seen the shadows for myself…

of course the graphics have improved with the models and you can see it when you zoom right in, but when zoomed out and you look at everything as a whole… it really isn’t all too pretty to look at

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That’s because when you compare Reforged to any other 2020 game, it looks laughable. Then when you add on top of that this game was not made by some indie company, but by one of the biggest gaming companies in the world, and then when you realize this isn’t just any game that they were in charge of reforging, but a universally acclaimed classic called Warcraft 3, you stop laughing and sadness washes over you.

That’s very subjective. I like the new graphics even zoomed out.

Nah no sadness for me, nor does it look laughable. The game was 15 years old lol. I am surprised it looks this good. Look at other remasters of games from that era, and this game beats them hands down.

Like many I appreciate the graphical update and the models in particular are the one thing I see that’s really been “reforged”. It was just hyped to be waaaay more than that… Blizzard could have stayed cool if they were just real with people from the start “Hey we got some cool unit models and doodads” to optionally update your game with. Maybe $10 - $15 bucks and everything else stays the same because that’s what they had. Everyone would have been happy. Instead they hyped it to heaven as a this “totally reimagined” AAA product and charged near the AAA price for it while managing to destroy existing muliplayer and treat with utter contempt the custom content/mod community that’s keep the title alive all this time. It’s not the graphics that have earned this title the unprecedented tide of bad reviews. It’s a culmination of disgusting business practices from Activision/Blizzards higher ups.

What objectively qualifies a person to be a “true” or “real” Warcraft 3 fan in comparison to someone else?

Blizzard’s never really been about pushing amazing bars, they just go for a unique look and accessibility.

Yeah, that’s because they somehow managed to make the original classic graphics worse in their reforged version.