Hello all,
Been playing WC3 for over a decade now. Bought reforged the day it dropped and refunded it hours later.
Is it still total trash or have they improved it? I’m hoping they eventually fix it and make it a decent product, as I love warcraft 3 and want to play it.
Is it a decent product yet?
Care about multiplayer only.
Thanks all!
I don’t think you want a real answer since you had no real question in your post.
What problems do you want to see improved?
Btw: Reforged (in Classic GFX) is free if you have RoC or TFT…soo… see for yourself?
Of course I want a real answer, thats why I spent 5 minutes googling this forum, logging in and making the post.
What problems do I want to see improved?
How about the entire game? Its trash, classic is better than it.
The graphics are horrible, the shading is too dark, the mesh is off, units blend together and are hard to see
The UI has limited functionality and looks like crap
No ladder or competitive play
Custom matchmaking is fubar
Single-player barely improved
No way to rebind keys
No in-game voice chat for teams
But mainly, the game looks and feels like an outsourced rushed cash-grab.
Personal taste I would say. I kinda like it and it got some changes but if you don’t like it, set it on Classic.
What function is missing?
Of course you can play competetive… since day one.
If you want to play a ladder, head over to w3champions dot com. Pad (known from W3Arena and more) created a ladder with Ranks and stuff.
Sorry, I didn’t get you here. Customgames have no matchmaking and why should they?
What do you want to see improved?
There is but not in the options
Remember that this is the same engine from 2002. Implementing stuff like this is plain impossible.
Blizzard outsourced work since forever.
Yes. Blizzard gave the Devs (Classic team) way to less time to polish but calling it a cash-grab is unfair since the support for current and future balance are and will be crazy. We had the SAME meta for YEARS and playing and watching the new metas and strategies is so much fun.
Has the game vastly improved?
It hasn’t improved, period.
oof. Ye, why taking time to answer when you can just be a troll
A quick look into your profile reveals you spending hours a day in this forum to spread false information and hate
Free time well spend?
Not trolling I asked a simple question:
Has the game vastly improved since it has been released?
It either has, or it has not.
I’m just checking in hoping it has.
I meant “FilthyCasual”
No no, we paid for a %&%&ing trash, so if we want a proper ladder we need to go outside bnet cause the system is even worse than 2003, and we are in 2020.
Need to say that is really sad that for use your custom keybind we need to edit a txt file, back to the past 
i repeat 2020.
Age of empires 2 definitive edition you can keybind ALL without traveling back in time to 2000, and the price is 14 € and have even more civs, with their campaign mode and their proper civilization bonus.
Fanboys can keep trying to defend this fraud but in the real world is that the game is pure %$it.
Well deserved metacritic 0.6 and no, it is not review bombing, just look AOE 2 definitive edition in metacritic and will see a beautiful 9 score or 84 metascore, the same as final fantasy VII remake.
Think twice before buy diablo IV, the only thing these people do well lately are the trailers, the hype, and finally the fraud playing with nostalgia of course.
Still waiting for the famous “agressively patch” and the profiles.
Dont buy the game, still the same as the beta.
No.
Still waiting
Did they actually do something smart for once and have really made it free? I never thought I’d see the day.
Edit: I misread the post, it’s not free. Never mind.
They had over 2 years…maybe more. They definitely had a minimum of 2 years. Small game companies can build a game from scratch in less than 2 years. These people re-skinned the game, released a buggy mess, and took out features that were in the game for over 16 years.
I have 0 doubts that 1 person, given 2 years, could have done a better job than what Blizzard accomplished even after outsourcing the entire graphical part of Reforged to another company.
Also, in what world is the response time for “future balance…crazy?” They haven’t even fixed the connection issues in almost 3 months after release and additional time from beta. I had a game yesterday where 3 people got desync’ed near the end. Like all new games, the community had to fix issues because the friggin developers can’t manage it and create 3rd party ladder systems. I haven’t needed a 3rd party site for ladder since playing Warcraft 2 on Kali '95 back in 95-97.
Nothing has improved mate, apart from Naga’s ears and footsteps.
Everybody plays on classic graphics and fans are patiently healing the injuries Blizzard did to its own game. In some monthes, thanks to third parties, we will have a quite nice war3 experience.
There is so much wrong in your comment. The Classic team is smaller than some (over and over repeated lame joke) small indie company. Also they had to wrap the old engine around new stuff. Don’t blame the team, blame the one giving the small time window for such a big project.
I highly doubt that you have a clue on this topic. And hold your “ThiS GuY aNd UT4 EnGIne” He just imported models into an existing engine without a working…anything. Such wow. Everyone can dot it in a day. Or the mighty AoE community who got split into 4 groups because every version is not compatible to the other. Imagine Blizzard re-re-re-releasing WC3 asking for money every time?
Or Nintendo/EA or whatever company just shutting down servers?
Having games bought online on Wii? Ohhhhhhhhh - toooo bad.
And Blizz outsourced stuff ever since. Even WC3 models were outsourced back then. So what?
Joinbugs, serverping and desyncs got way better. Still. You have to keep in mind that it is not an easy job to mix new stuff into an engine being able to run on Win98. Just remember how long it took for a browser to add 64bit support. Its not done by simply clicking a checkbox. And yes, they had to rush a 64bit support since Apple (you can thank them at this point) dropped 32bit support entirely so NO GAME will run unless 64bit.
This Forum man. I have to leave this toxicity. All this hate here
Yes, some are for good reason. But this? Man oh man
Any comment saying “they are few so it is slow” has been invalidated by 1 guy making an integrated ladder alone in a couple of weeks.
Its not done in 1 week, not one person and currently not functioning properly. And even if so, what does it mean? That Blizz has to hire 1 more guy? You see how insane you sound? Also they played with open cards. They said that Reforged wont come with a ladder, They release without ladder
shocked pikachuface
I mean, yea. It should have had a ladder but well. They had to rush it, like i said above, because of Apple dropping 32bit support
Face the fact (it’s been confirmed to more than one tourney org) : there is no classic team anymore on War3. They left 1 or 2 guys to keep the light open, but they burried the project after its release fail.
They didn’t rush it because of technical problems, but to put it on time for the end of fiscal year. It was a scam project from the beginning anyway : outsource all art (so no control on quality : see the result…), zero effort on menus/ergonomy, just some balance patch ahead. Little project to make a quick buck, but it turned wrong.
What I don’t understand is why remake the graphics to garbage. Their 2 succesful remasters (broodwar and WoW) respected the original graphics. It’s integral to a succesful remaster (see AoE2 also for example). Misguided from the start.
A remaster of Wc3 (regardless of its fancy name)
Should
1 - Be faithful to the original game.
2 - Be faithful to the Warcraft IP.
3 - Be faithful and suit in an RTS game.
Reforged is like:
1 - Not faithful to the original game.
2 - Opposite of warcraft IP, aka its realistic high detailed, compared to stylish cartoony.
3 - Not suited for an RTS game.
Conclusion, the visual upgrade over warcraft 3 with the project of Reforgeds was at best mind numbingly average, and at worst, complete betrayal.
It is what i like to call, making a Mario game but putting realistic detailed models from The Last of US, or Uncharted in Mario, and have those models cos play and dress in Mario cloths.
You get Reforged.
Art is subjective, but good art and bad art exist. there is no denial of that.
That’s why you can’t say a 6 yo kids painting compares to a skilled artist.
What you say can be applied if the were just making Wc4 aka a new game.
But to betray and go to the complete opposite of the art style of the original game can be objectively pointed out. whether or not someone likes the Reforged visuals, there is no denial that the art style and graphical overhaul of the game has made Classic War3 graphics and Reforged complete opposite of eachother. instead of complimenting one another which is more preferable. Reforged is realistic graphics, War3 Classic is stylish cartoony. there is objectively no way to deny this fact. the critique many give including me is why go away from stylish cartoony and betray the fans who came to you for set reason in the first place ? why can’t the ones who loved classic graphics be rewarded with a remaster that keeps the graphics and art style to stylish cartoony ? subjectivity is thrown out the window when someone is planning on returning an older product that is beloved back to life. saying to people who don’t like it to switch back to Classic is like insulting them, saying that they don’t deserve for the visuals to be remade but still kept faithful. and that Blizzard is free to reshape the face of the product that made them popular in an entirely different way.
There is also the little point i mentioned about RTS. and Warcraft 3. the Reforged visuals are objectively unfitting for an RTS game.
So no, this game is one of the rare examples where subjectivity and feeling has nothing to do with people wanting a remade visuals that keeps faithful to the graphics and art style of the original product.
Also if you can’t tell a difference between a stylish cartoony game like Heros of the Storm and Reforged which looks like a mobile game cos playing as Warcraft ip characters. then you can happily ignore all my post and return to your imaginary bubble.
It’s fun because in my college. There is a tp that is in a month to make an rts when 3 people are in C ++.
That if without making models or sound. We stole them from Stacraft XD
So it is hard for me to believe that in 2 years they could not have at least one game with everything they promised. (Then they may have bugs to correct here and there.)
Slightly repopulated.
But thats the only positive thing to say about it.