Can’t wait for Grom Hellscream, he should be a savage af.
In online games, you can use Arthas, Uther as a skin for the Paladin Hero.
This means that Grom Hellscream is alternate skin for the Blademaster hero?
I wonder if he should be a blademaster or not. Why? In lore he isn’t a Blademaster, he was a strong big Orc, he doesn’t use teleport or mirror-images in the books. If anything, I would say this style fits Kargath more (according to WoD quests).
I often saw people suggesting that Blizzard was “too lazy” to make unique fitting kit for Grom Hellscream. So they just gave him a Blademaster kit, because that’s the strongest Orc Melee kit.
Should this still be true? This means Grommash is gonna be immortalised as a Blademaster to many (new) people.
I never thought the Blade Master kit fitted Grom, but it’s harsh to just alter the campaign like that, did he need Wind Walk for any stealth based mission?
I hope they make his model bulkier and more in line with how he is in the cinematics.
It’s not really laziness. Grom was only playable for I think one mission, so there was no real point in creating an entire new hero type just for him. Especially when every other hero in the game shares abilities with the generic ones.
Plus he had, like a lot of orcs at the time, lost a lot of weight. Fat and muscle, he was smaller than his well fed non fel AU counterpart. The orcs at the time were still legarthic.
Probably would make more sense with the tauren chieftain skills since those are more warrior-ish, but I really doubt they’ll retcon him out of being a blademaster.
He makes more sense as an Orc Warlord, a hero unit featured in the Warcraft III Alpha but was cut from the game. The moves were Death Scream, Raging Scream, and Command Aura. After all, it does make sense for Grom “Hellscream” to have abilities that involve “screaming” lol. He can keep the Bladestorm in the campaign or an entirely new ultimate.
Lore often varies from source to source. In lore, he was also a relatively slender Orc who fought with surprising skill rather than mere brute strength and blood fury, who actually had more self-control than most.
In Rise of the Horde, he was depicted as slender even before the lethargy or demon blood. Not slender for a human, of course, but for an Orc he was a skinny dude with narrow shoulders.
Grom being slender so far I know has only been stated in 1 very old book.
That’s not any more true, in Warlords of Draenor, Chronicles and Warcraft Movie (Blizzard’s latest project with Grom Hellscream) he was portrayed as muscled, bulky, strong Orc.
Not sure how he would compare with Garrosh next to each other, but in WoD cinematic they seem pretty equal sized.
Yeah, he was probably a Blademaster solely for gameplay reasons. It would cool, though, if they made him some special abilities in Reforged, but I doubt it, since people apparently want everything to be same…
I watched the movie in theatre, visually the movie was enjoyable. All the battles between Humans and Orcs were really intense, also great music. But there were few problems.
The story was too rushed.
Humans side was indeed kinda lame.
Garoona was a main character, but she looked like a bad Orc cosplayer. It was basically the actress “Paula Patton” painted green with 2 sticks in her mouth. In the story Garoona was a slave of the Orcs her whole life, gets captured and ends up this time as a human slave. But she acted so tough in front of the humans as a slave her whole life. It just doesn’t make any sense.
I’m not even talking about the random Mak’gora/duel between Blackhand and the his new prisoner Lothar. The duel lasted 5 seconds and Blackhand lost his balls and died.
Why even start a duel like that? Doesn’t seems Orcish to me, more like movie director wanting to end movie fast with a good forced end.
Yeah I’m with you on these points. The emotional moments for the humans seemed pretty forced and didn’t have the time to build any weight.
I don’t know if it was Duncan Jones fault though. On the wikipedia page it says this:
"Upon coming aboard, Jones immediately voiced his displeasure at the script, which he stated “was the stale fantasy trope of, humans are the good guys, monsters are the bad guys”. With Blizzard’s approval (who had also been looking to change the story), Jones altered the story so that “It’s 50-50.” Jones also faced personal struggles during filming, as his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer soon after Jones took over, and his father died from cancer late in production. Jones thus summed up the challenge by telling The New York Times , “My film started and ended with cancer.”
There was so much they got right though, so I hope they get a chance to do another film and the time to do a great script.
They also cut almost like 40 mins off of it. I’m sure it would have been quite a lot better with those in it. I blame the general lack of faith for the movie. They should have tried to make it way more huge and epic, but it was just pulled back down and ended up being a moderate fantasy flick. Even though I personally loved it, I can see why people didn’t like it, when watching from an objective and technical point of view.
For starters, they should have used the first 20 mins for a sort of prologue where they just simply explained the worlds a bit. Instead there was a homage to the Warcraft 3 intro trailer and some meaningless rambling on it.
should probly change blade master to axe master to simplify it but i wuld not go as far to force grom to be thick and muscle like wod and the movie!
azaroth feels like grom have been on the run and got less eat he was even captured aswell! so it fits perfect with the timeline Thrall saves Grom
Honestly for the Warcraft movie they should have just dropped you right into Lord of the Clans. That’s where the interesting stuff starts anyway. It might not have bombed either!
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