Developers, Please read this to see how "Balanced" 1.30 actually is

Exclude same race match, this is the group match result of the GSL winter final of warcraft 3 between 24 top players all over the world:
Human:

Th000 Infi Chaemiko Sok Hawk Total Percent Won
Match Won 1 2 1 3 2 Match 9 45
Match Lost 2 1 3 2 3 11
Game Won 4 4 3 7 5 Game 23 50.00
Game Lost 4 2 7 4 6 23

Orc:

Lyn Focus Fly100% Soin DanGer Cash Sini Total Percent Won
Match Won 5 4 2 1 0 3 1 Match 16 64
Match Lost 0 1 1 2 3 2 0 9
Game Won 10 9 4 2 1 7 2 Game 35 54.69
Game Lost 3 4 4 5 6 6 1 29

Night Elf:

Moon Foggy Lawliet Colorful Zhouxixi Neytoph Sonik Hunter Sini Th000 Infi Total Percent Won
Match Won 3 3 3 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 Match 17 50.00
Match Lost 0 1 0 1 2 3 3 4 3 0 0 17
Game Won 6 7 6 9 2 3 2 2 0 2 2 Game 41 49.40
Game Lost 0 4 2 3 5 7 6 8 6 0 1 42

Undead:

Eer0 WFZ Lucifer Pcg123 Total Percent Won
Match Won 3 1 2 1 Match 7 36.84
Match Lost 2 4 3 3 12
Game Won 8 5 6 3 Game 22 44.00
Game Lost 5 9 7 7 28

If this is not extremely unbalanced for Undead, then I have nothing else to say.

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the thing is undead got some buffs to units that are not used so much.
but it was not enough and the core got nerfed for no reason.
corupption orb 1 less -armor, destroyer nerf (dmg and hp), Frost armor nerf, Whyrm nerf.

on the other hand nightelf the race with the player that has the most tournaments wins gets buffed to insanety …

Orc & Nelf are just way better atm

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thats MUCH too little data to make any statistical claims.
Also race balance barely matters below the top level. Surely everyone by now has seen that Happy has some ridiculous stats like 1100 wins to 14 losses on ladder with undead. Every time i see people complaining about race balance it looks to me like they’re just trying to find excuses instead of getting better.
The game is obviously not perfectly balanced. Balancing four races is hard, and the top players seem to agree that night elf is a bit overtuned right now, but the tiny data sample you posted proves nothing

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Happy does not even want to play in Asia tournament at all, he refused China’s invitation even though it covered everything. Asian player are just better at dealing with UD, because there are more.
He is playing Asian players who a huge time delay on battle net, that does not prove anything at all.
Also 60 matches are not too little, in any case it should not be a race has a win percent of less than 40, not to mention nearly half of which come from Eer0 alone.

u mean 120 dont know why u say Eer0

His official ID is Eer0, which is similar to Chinese pronunciation of 120.

your table is completely unreadable and weird, do you seriously make a difference between “game” and “match”? how the hell am i supposed to read this crap.
And you write some percentages next to game won?
dude this table is bad

matches are best of 3, meaning 2-3 games each. Hence undead won 7 out of 19 matches they were in, which was 22 out of 50 games

Undead really need unit mobility that isn’t glued to death knight. The race is way too linear with everything hinging on one hero, because ghouls, fiends, statues, wyrms, necros, wagons and banshees all trod along at 270 or less ms.

matches are best of 3
Games could be 2:0 or 2:1.