Dear Blizzard, after the Patch which killed Warcraft3 because of kill the Hostbots
i was open to test it and i can say its the worst Patch you ever dropped.
Objectivly : The most Maps bug, Crashes and Lag.
The Most Lobbies are filled with highpingers and we got 0 Stats now, you get kicked out of Clanchannel if u try to write something ( only if ure not in that Clan )
Only good thing is , that everybody can host now what he want
So why we cant find a way for all?
Heres my Idea : Whats about a second Gateway or another Tab of Custom games only for Hosting Bots and 1 Tab or Gateway for Custom Gamers.
Honestly Blizzard if u stay on this dickhead you will lose your Community so lets find a way and make this Game better for all of us.
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This patch actually got more players to play the game (what i can see)
I’m actually against bots, this new patch made the game so much better with removing them, they always hosted empty lobbies except for the popular ones. I understand that people are upset because of their stats are gone but you got to look at the bigger picture.
Yeah there are some bugs but they will probably get squished in a future patch, when updating 16 year old game you can expect things to act up.
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You seem to forget that people quit because of hostbots, what about all the returning players? The last people i talked to reinstalled the game just to play it. The lobby is full of games now with actual people in it. This impending doom nonsense with bots is just bullcrap. People will play the game regardless of bots. I for one don’t miss it one bit. All we need now is a stable system.
Stat tracking will be missed for sure, but if theres a will theres a way. I’m sure somebody will do something about it.
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People left because of hostbots flooding the lobby lists. People left because no matter how many people tried to host their games, hostbots would always drown them out.
It doesn’t matter if they host the popular games. 70% of the time I joined I’d just instantly leave because literally no one was in it. And if there was, it’d take ages to fill up because people thinks “Probably no one is in it”
People liked makemehost because they could host the game they wanted, and didn’t know or couldn’t port forward in order to host the lobbies themselves. Blizzard removed the need to port forward, so makemehost isn’t needed anymore except maybe to download a map… Which you can do through Hive Workshop anyway.
60%? Probably 60% of pre-patch community. Post-patch has a lot more than you have now… And the game isn’t empty. You’re looking at one moment, to try and make your argument look good. Battle net is undergoing an issue at the moment, but the hours before and the last couple of days I’ve have NO shortages of lobbies to join.
Why don’t you wait a week or two, and see how it evolves instead of immediately calling it dying?
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Makemehost is so bad dude:
-Game lobbies just crash randomly
-You don’t know which maps are functional with patch
-You have to wait in queue to host a game
-The download speed is terrible (try hosting an 8mb map)
-You need to suggest a map and wait 2 days for it to get approved
-It doesn’t support 24 player maps
-You have to use a freaking web browser just to host a game
Look at all these points and try to find something positive, because there ain’t nothing good about it. ENTgaming was as good as a hosting service could be, but it’s not better then just straight up hosting your own game with the current system. Compare it to the current system:
-Cloud download, everyone downloads at the same time
-No third party service is required
-I can actually see all the games and players in it, no empty games
It’s a bit early to release this patch, but it’s a small step towards a better Warcraft.
You can’t host a game on your own, because nobody will join it. People just referred to makemehost and ent gaming list when they wanted to find games. So if your game was not listed, nobody would join.
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Empty lobbies ?mate cmon you have no Idea.
BK was always full even on 2 am you found matches.
Sure its good that People can host their own stuff now.
But also its bad that [BK] is gone through the Patch because this was the best Experience in my whole Wc3 time.
Now everybody can host and 40 % of players leave , 30% get disconnect or 30% of maps are buggy now.
We have no statistics now, nothing to organize, no tournaments for Custom Players , right we have NOTHING , an unorginazed Wave of Random Games.
You maybe never played on BK but me and like 60% of the Community will miss this and leave.
When i heard that Reforged comes , i was very hyped for the game but now ? if there is no change soon i will leave it and give a fck of Blizzards Moneymakegame.
And yes 60% just see it.
Alone 46k Players was in November on BK and there are some more Bots than BK.
But how ever, Warcraft will fall and then u can host your random games with 2-3 players which have a 5000 ping or leave after 1 min congratulations.
BK was the only reason why i started Wc3 after 5 years again and im not the only one.
And NOBODY really NOBODY will come back because their can host now their own stuff.
But youre not that much smart to see it. just run blind behind Blizzard .
Actually there are. Last few people i talked to reinstalled just because “hostbots are dead”.
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Just compare it with the people who will leave because of dead Hostbots 
nobody quit because of hostbots unless they didnt understand them
lol what man, you have no clue. You probably barely ever hosted with it.
It always worked perfectly for me, hundreds of times. Never had a SINGLE problem with it. Webrowser was better because the wc3 game list is trash broken anyway, it never showed all the hosted maps. (hence the need to constantly “refresh”)
download speed was fine, what kind of stupid complaint is that. It was like 300kb/s. It was never bothering anybody, nobody EVER complained “oh geee, makemehost is so slow”.
I’m serious, I NEVER heard that complaint EVER in 5 years or so.
24 player maps? Who gives a garbage, there arent any and actually they do work. I played some on makemehost, there were some zombie eras that worked just fine.
So I dont know what is wrong with you but you’re talking random garbage that is literally just lies.
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They will be back, if they liked the game and play it. What are they going to do, stop playing it because of something insignificant? I’m sure people will stop playing for a week or so until the bugs are get fixed. Maybe even a month depending on how quickly the dev. team works on these things.
Like I said, wait a week before you decide to start calling the game dead and dumb and chaotic. It’s a new patch, everyone’s joining in. Either for the first time, or as Returners. I’m fairly neutral on the subject of bots but you can’t claim I have no idea when I’ve been playing in bot lobbies for the past 5 weeks.
And of course there’s no organization. It just happened. You can’t organize in less than 3 days. Give Blizzard time to patch the games and network, map makers time to fix and make their maps, and Players time to find their niche and hosting preferences.
We have a lot more access to communication than we did in the past. We can make new forums, we can make Discord servers - Something that map makers already takes advantage of by providing the invite link on the loading screen for their community. In two weeks, I bet you’ll see more organization than you’d EVER believe possible of people.
Btw i told about my Idea :
Heres my Idea : Whats about a second Gateway or another Tab of Custom games only for Hosting Bots and 1 Tab or Gateway for Custom Gamers.
thats would make the game fair for all of us.
Im only Legion TD Mega player from [BK] hoster
i had 24/7 games and an organized stable system.
You could Report Leavers, you could play with your clan organized games, you had a good closed Community with a lot of player.
I dont care about Laddergames or something.
I dont see 1 positive point on this Patch really 0.
But some people see good point in this Patch and i just tried to find a way to make all happy so stop flaming me lads.
I really dont know on Which Hostbots you was but [BK] was always full 24/7
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By the way, battle net stopped having issue. Does this look empty to you right now?
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No People will stop because they played ONLY Warcraft 3 because of Legion TD ; HvsA, Dota Apem or something.
You cant compare my own hosted Legion TD games with the [BK] hosted games.
on my own hosted games is absolute 0 fun because i dont have a Ranglist to see whos the best.
On BK you could see the leavers, banreasons, statistics, ELO and some more.
They also updated all few weeks the Maps and it was just organized.
People like me and there are really some dont interesst about own hosted Legion Games bcz its not the same.
Exactly this! Screw the hostbots, I dont want any of them to be there once WC3: Refroged is launched.
It would make it completely impossible to get anyone to join for the custom games you might want to play, cause like you said hostbots would always drown them out and thus the only customs ppl play would be the most popular ones that hostbots would run.
I mean ye, obviously most ppl who would still play Warcraft 3 customs, would play those most popular few custom games anyway, but if you yourself wanted to host any particular game before, it was impossible to get anyone to join them.
I mean obviously I would not have minded if these bots would have stayed there until launch of WC3: Reforged, but anyhow…hopefully all the bugs and crashes are fixed by then.
But ye in future there could/should be a tab for Hosting bots and then another for Custom Gamers who want to play something else than just those games that those bots run
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Maybe some people are happy now about hosting own Maps , playing what they want
But there is no Target to play it for a long time.
For Example :
When i played on BK hostbot , my target was to be the best monthly , to beat the best players on this Game, because there was a ranklist , stats and ELO
i had a target to reach and this was one of the reason why i played it 24/7 just to be better and beat the bests.
Now ? i host my only stuff and then ? after 2 Weeks it will be become so boring because there is no target.
And for all Ladderplayers:
You should see that Warcraft 3 isnt only about your Laddergames, warcraft 3 is more than only play Ladder.
Just make an own Window or Gateway for Hostbots and all are happy
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@John316
I have no clue? That’s not an argument mate. Did you try the alternatives to makemehost? Did you try ENThosting? If so, you would know that there wasn’t any reason to use MMH over ENT, because it was so much better. Download speeds were super fast, you could just upload your map and start the game with zero problems. MMH was barely useable for several of the reasons i’ve already listed.
Makemehost games crash randomly, regardless of your “personal experience”.
Web browsers is a bad solution because it’s more work to host a single game.
Download speed isn’t a stupid complaint.
I give a crap about 24 player maps, why wouldn’t i?
And no zombie eras 24p version doesn’t work on MMH.
Like u said game was alive cause of bot during a long period of time.
But now we just don’t need them at all since the feature who made bot usefull was to join european and USA servers.
I feel a little sorry for all those people who have dedicated their time to bringing the game to life with them.
But you have to live with the times. Blizzard has taken over the reins and wants to revive his game. And I feel an immense joy to no longer see a dozen empty games with maps that I don’t play to see a lot of maps played and created by players like it was the case in the golden age of Warcraft.
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Honestly i dont care about MakeMeHost i just wanna play my Legion TD Mega 3.6 from BK ! because i loved the ELO system, i loved ranklistes, i loved the Community and my own Clan.
And whats the problem to make an own Window or own Gateway for the Hostbots ? tell me who would have a problem with this?
people like you are only toxic and ignorant . you only care about your stuff but whats about the other side of Community ? theyre fuc.ked now and have no motivation for playing this game.
So whats the Problem on Hostbots in an own Window ? tell me
Playing without Elo system , without any target to reach is like :
Bet with someone for nothing
you have no mission , no reason to play more than 2 weeks.
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I’m toxic and ignorant? What part of me is toxic and ignorant? I wrote some strong points for why the new patch is better or at least will be soon. Stop throwing derogatory terms at me. I’m saying give it a week. Personally i’m working on a 24 player map, a map that i can’t play because ENT is dead and because of the current patch. I’m not happy about this patch either, but to say that bots were better is a big mistake. People don’t leave the game permanently because of some temporary hitches, give me a break. Hosting might dead because of data encryption, but if somebody wants to make an ELO system it’s not like it’s impossible with the current patch. Just give people time.