Co-Op mode for Warcraft Reforge?

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I was wondering for Warcraft 3 reforged could Blizzard add a Co-Op mode similar to Starcraft 2?
Where you could buy multiple commanders/Build types for a mission…

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2 player campaign - Download the Campaign | HIVE

More custom campaigns - https://www.hiveworkshop.com/repositories/maps.564/

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They said they don’t have any plans for a Co-op campaign. But we can always hope. :speak_no_evil:

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Well as the saying goes… money talks.

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Neither of those are really what Rob’s asking about.

I do hope it’s something they consider down the road. It’d add some other incentives for people to still kick around in the game if customs or melee/ladder aren’t their thing. Especially if they’re familiar with a commander mode coming from SC2.

Plus Blizzard making stuff officially would also toss a lot more assets into the editor.

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I mean, if Blizz decides to add co-op, then thats great! but since Blizz said they are not looking into that for now, and since we already have a 2player campaign, so then why not utilize it since its all we got for now? this thread is titled “Co-op for Warcraft”, well that is technically a possibility to enjoy 2player campaign in Warcraft right now! Does it have to be exactly like Starcraft??

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In the context of the thread and OP’s question, probably.

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oh I didnt know similar and exactly were the same word

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It’s not… Exact would be using same types of missions, same commanders etc…I think they should do a similar style. For example instead of just a 2 allied co-op make a 4 allied co-op version as well.

Like the CO-OP has been bringing in alot of money for Starcraft 2. Like Heck, I bought every commander over there and I think they ran out of idea’s for commanders…Though I could be wrong. Nonetheless, they should have a CO-OP mode in Warcraft 3 with fancy missions seeing how they are doing new voice overs for arthas, uther, jana, thrall, etc for all the units in Reforged anyway.

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Thats confusing IMO, team vs team is not co-op. Cooperative Campaign does not have 2 competing teams, Co-op is just vs the computer/environment. Maybe there should be a different name like instead of calling it “Co-op Commanders” it could be called “Team Vs Team Challenges”

Basically what you are asking for is an entirely new gamemode. Which sounds cool and I would probably enjoy playing this style, but it seems like it would be something map makers could create themselves. I dont know if Blizzard will be adding any DLC or an expansion to Reforged, though I do hope so!

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Here’s my input on the situation

  • SC2 has Co-op Commander mode because they have a team of designers dedicated to working on DLC content. DLC Commanders and a ‘endless grind’ of missions is ideal for this mode.
  • Reforged is being made by the Classics team. It’s not known to us how much resource is dedicated to this remake and its maintenance. We know they are planning on adding skins and making some DLC, but for the most part all the visuals are outsourced so they can afford the time and resources to get that done.
  • Reforged designers are balancing the game and working on revamping the campaign.

Is there any effort in making an entirely new mode for co-op commander? I think that is a hard sell. Custom maps are not that popular in SC2 despite it being widely available. War3 is the opposite, where custom maps are still hugely popular, esp in China. I don’t know if they can devote resources to marketting a co-op mode when people already are already investing themselves into certain custom maps instead of standard Warcraft 3.

For all we know, after Reforged the team could be moving on to remaking another classic. Diablo 2 needs attention too, and if they decide to get Lemonsky to do that game too, then that’s already resources being drawn away from making new content for WC3. I think that’s the likely scenario. What would make more money, WC3 DLC co-op mode, or Diablo 2 remake? Answer should be obvious.

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Unfortunately, yes.

I never played Diablo 2 that much, and I would probably buy it, if it was remade/-mastered/-forged, but on the other hand, I seriously hope they keep pushing new content for WC3 too. There’s a good point that Warcraft 3 has a very active custom games community - is it really worth for Blizzard to make something that modders and map maker could/will do on their own anyway? Though I’d still prefer Blizzard-made Co-op campaign over the fan made, but an easy compromise could also be to allow custom campaigns and game saving over the BattleNet. That would save a lot of money on Blizzard and we could still get our co-op campaign at least fan-made.

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I think the only good thing to come from their 800 person firing would be that if their statement about making room for increasing production and development was not only true, but applying to the whole company and not just a few teams.

Inject some more manpower into stuff like Diablo 4, World of Warcraft (because boy that could use more content), Heroes of the Storm (I still think sunsetting it was the opposite of what they should’ve tried), and obviously and most notably for here - the Classic Games team.

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Ah I met it as like 4 people working together on a mission.

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First you said you wanted co-op, so I linked you to the co-op campaign. Then you said you want 2v2 and 4v4 co-op? and now your asking for 4 people co-op? seems like you just cant be satisfied, cause there already exists a 3player version of the co-op campaign

heres a link for 3player campaign —> 3P Campaign Orc v 2.1 FINAL (Patch 1.30.4 or newer!) | HIVE

I know you already said thats not good enough, cause you want it to be like SC2 and made officially by Blizzard :frowning: but I’m sure once Reforged is released, we will see more higher quality custom campaigns made by many different players, maybe even new ones based on WoW… I get that you want it to be higher quality but I’m just sharing with you what we already have that you can enjoy right now

Remember this is more like a remastering with small improvements to the classic campaign, and I would be very surprised if Blizz went all out on a new co-op campaign (which they already said was not something they were looking into currently) so at least we have the ability to make custom maps, thats one of the reasons wc3 is so great! and the co-op campaign from hiveworkshop is actually a lot of fun if your into co-op, have you even tried it?

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We don’t need co op mode like in sc2 for Wc3.
It would be a direct competition agaisn’t the custom community, from Blizzard. which is unfair.

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most custom games i see available, that people will actually join, do not have the classic RTS feel. SC2 co-op missions are classic styled RTS but with fun missions and really cool commander units/abilities. it wouldn’t be competition against the custom community because there are zero maps styled like SC2 co-op that you would be able to get a full lobby.

SC2 Co-op style missions in WC3 would not have a negative affect on the custom community. Period.

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I really doubt the team behind WC3R has the manpower and resources to create an entire new mode and commanders/factions for it. The possibility of this happening is below 20% IMHO.