Co-op games?

Titom-11487 · November 6, 2019, 4:02pm

I do love RTS games. I played WC 1, 2 and 3 but mainly play SC2 nowadays. I have no particular interest in competitive gaming but rather in campaign and co-op modes. SC2 offers a great co-op mode where one chooses a hero-army, is paired with another player/hero-army to fulfill a mission. Still, it has limitations: a rather thin set of maps/missions, a fixed number of 2 players per missions, a players pairing system that sometimes lacks some sense. It seems that SC2 co-op has been a huge success.

Now I see WC3R coming and wonder if a co-op mode could to be introduced there too (well, I obviously hope it will), without the limitations of the SC2 co-op one. “Reforging” something from scratch offers a great opportunity to bring new abilities to an already great game, even if they are not there day one.

Does anyone know if such a thing is planned/expected?
Thanks!

Retera-1959 · November 7, 2019, 1:40pm

There are already custom games like this made by players in the world editor, but the new skin system broke heroes so that they cannot have a working custom skill list. I believe Blizzard’s top priority will be to get the engine running as intended, then afterwards they might make maps for it. But you can probably find what you’re asking for as a custom game. Presumably you feel Starcraft 2 coop is different from a Warcraft III map because it saves your progress unlocking out of game levels between sessions. In Warcraft 3 the same system is available by hijacking unit model preloading behaviors and making them modify ability tooltips to contain data from the previous map session, then reading the tooltips affected by the hijack. It means a lot for Wc3 custom maps because it means you can save data between maps.
So, yeah, what you’re describing could exist and any World Editor user could make it.

Foxi678-2263 · November 7, 2019, 6:13pm

It would be lovely, to be honest! Coop commanders in w3.

Gladonos-1712 · November 8, 2019, 8:22pm

Sadly, i doubt they have the resources for this. But this would be the single greatest feature they could ever hope to implement. Just keep begging for it and maybe we will get somewhere.

Retera:

There are already custom games like this made by players in the world editor, but the new skin system broke heroes so that they cannot have a working custom skill list. I believe Blizzard’s top priority will be to get the engine running as intended, then afterwards they might make maps for it. But you can probably find what you’re asking for as a custom game. Presumably you feel Starcraft 2 coop is different from a Warcraft III map because it saves your progress unlocking out of game levels between sessions. In Warcraft 3 the same system is available by hijacking unit model preloading behaviors and making them modify ability tooltips to contain data from the previous map session, then reading the tooltips affected by the hijack. It means a lot for Wc3 custom maps because it means you can save data between maps.
So, yeah, what you’re describing could exist and any World Editor user could make it.

Customs games can’t capture it because:

It is too much work for 1 person.
There needs to be different maps.
It will be in the middle of the custom game screen with all the random custom games rather then right next to ladder IF it isn’t just drowned out by “Footman Frenzy” and all the various TDs.