BLIZZARD DO SOMETHING WITH MAPHACKs

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unfortunately Blizzard can’t just nuke every website that hosts a cheat program, there’s no legal basis for it.

Fortunately though most people aren’t cheaters even when such things are readily available. This idea that everyone is maphacking just because they caught you with your pants down is just silly.

“most people aren’t cheaters”

Where are these statistics?

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It’s just reality. Where are YOUR statistics that everyone and their mother is cheating? I’m not saying that there are no cheaters, because there definitely are, but the problem with games like this is it’s easy to encounter someone way more skilled than you and when there’s huge skill gaps it can easily look like cheating but it’s not.

It’s way too easy to blame maphack for you losing when you can’t consider the fact that maybe your opponent is just smarter than you.

The problem with maphack is it’s impossible to prove. You can cry cheater because the opponent caught you at a creep camp or ran into you when you least expected it, but the reality is the vast majority of the time, it’s either prediction on their part or pure chance. The only real way to prove a map hack is if a player does something that’s actually impossible to do without it- One of the few examples I can think of is if someone is able to attack from low ground to high ground despite having no vision of the high ground. which would be impossible without a map hack.

Look, play another game that actually sees some moderation, like Overwatch. Look for toxic players and report them and you’ll frequently see a message saying that your reports were acted on. Now try reporting people for cheating every time you see a cheap death and see if you get the same results. You won’t, because Blizzard will look and find they weren’t cheating.

What do you mean it’s impossible to prove? Do you not look at replays, analyze how an oppoent moves? How they’ll instantly stop mid-creep to run to you if youre doing a high value camp? How put down counter tech right after you start something? And it’s not one or two instances. Maybe you’re a closet hacker? Seem pretty bent on shutting down the idea that people do MH in this lmao.

Also, SoloZizhao got banned for maphacking. Blizz does stuff, just once a year lol…

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I didn’t say a single word about anyone cheating or blaming anyone. Why are you being so defensive? You made a claim and I’m asking you where your statistics are. So, where are they? Or are you making unsubstantiated claims?

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That doesn’t prove maphacking at all. It’s “possible” but the fact that an opponent decides to move a certain way does not prove map hacking.

Like I said- The only way to definitively prove a maphack is if they take an action that would otherwise be completely impossible due to the fog of war directly preventing that action from being possible. It is entirely possible to predict/calculate where opponents may be based on a variety of factors including human predictability. In your scenario they could have had vision of you from somewhere (such as a ward in your base or a unit near it) at some brief moment and thus knew to break off from what they were doing even though they didn’t have vision of your main army.

I’ve never used a maphack or any other cheat (why the hell do I have like a 40% win rate if I’m cheating?) and yet half the times I happen upon the opponent at a creep camp they cry “MAPHACKER!”

edit: conflating your post with the OP’s, that’s my bad and I’m sorry.

You asked where are the statistics. I just countered with where’s the statistics that show everyone’s cheating? I don’t have statistics, but there’s no reason to assume people are cheating when I’m not encountering any obvious cheating with regularity.

I’ve seen the site for one map hack where they claim it’s “undetectable” by Blizzard. That’s probably not accurate, but supposing that it was, how would you expect them to do something about something they can’t detect?

Which is quite literally what I described. You don’t just stop mid camp to continuously creepjack. It’s like you don’t read, or don’t digest what someone describes to you. You’re so quick to be ‘in the right’ that you just blabber on with your own viewpoint.

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No, it is quite literally not what you described. You described an improbable scenario- but not an impossible one. I could easily make a decision while doing a creep camp “maybe I shouldn’t be doing this- the enemy could be nearby.” While inside information could certainly drive the choice to abandon a creep camp, it is not the only possible explanation. Thus it is reasonable to think someone could be cheating in your scenario, but that doesn’t guarantee that they are.

Where as I described a literally impossible scenario. Units can not attack from lower terrain levels to higher ones unless they have vision. of the upper level provided by another source like an air unit or some other way of gaining vision. If those things aren’t present and someone is able to attack when it shouldn’t be possible, that would provide definitive proof.

Seriously man, know the mechanics of the game and think. Apply logic. an improbable scenario is not proof by itself. Now, if you have a known cheater, i.e. a person known to the community to have cheated before, such an improbable scenario would definitely support an accusation of cheating. But you cannot definitively prove someone is cheating just because they caught you at a bad time, or suddenly changed their strategy.

And you can’t even get the scenario right…

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Except I did get the scenario right. And its funny how you apparently run into map hackers all the time while I rarely if ever do. This sort of situation where it feels like the opponent knows something I don’t? Rare. Again: Your situation is perhaps unlikely, but not impossible and therefore is not decisive proof.

Again, this isn’t to say that Blizzard doesn’t need to do something about cheats, but the way you post is like you think you’re the only honest player on earth and almost everyone else is just a cheater cheater pumpkin eater.

Reality is what you make up? Im sorry mr. god complex, but thats not how it works. You have to prove the things you claim otherwise its just more unsubstantiated claims that we will just dismiss. This is just basic science and the premise behind having truth behind your claims even a child understands.

But as we know the definite proof was already presented to you in the past and you simply mass reported it so i think we know where we stand.

I will end my post with a quote from the great Warcraft 3 philosopher, Moon: “what evidence can we present to someone that doesnt believe in evidence?”

I don’t blame you for not having much faith in humanity right now, but neither you nor anyone else has any evidence that “everybody” cheats.

It is understandable to be afraid about cheats like maphack, but not everyone is a hacker, sometimes players just anticipate your moves better.

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