2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 is garbage now

I have more issues now with premade groups then I do with Teamkillers. I think its great players can play with their friends now. But now it’s a requirement. If you want a chance at winning. I’ve been in so many games now where my heroes just get focused down it’s sickening. Then it’s hard to get your group to focus down enemy heroes because there is no voice in Warcraft 3. I fail to understand why no solo queue option in team games. It was like that since 2003. Like I had far fewer issues in Warcraft 3 classic. When players couldn’t even form groups for team matches.

It’s getting to the point just bring back Warcraft 3 classic because team games are ridiculous now. Not sure if anyone else feels the same way, or has the same issues.

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A kind of room should be set up before departure. To scan what is going to be done. Like Dota’s or a simple chat.

yeah something like that. I legit just went to twitch, and its starting to make more sense why you don’t even got a chance at all.

All the players share units right at the start as they hang out in discord. That’s actually pretty clever because if you suck at microing, then your friend can just take control.

If you mean that because you haven’t heard, here’s why:

For the first time, the system will allow Random Teams to be paired against Arranged Teams. This is a departure from the precedent set in the legacy version of Warcraft III, so we wanted to share our thoughts behind this change. Pairing Arranged Teams solely against other Arranged Teams often resulted in very long queue times, especially for highly rated teams. These extended queue times often led to poor quality games, since teams would be matched against any available opponent once enough time passed. This change will help make more closely matched games more often, and we’ll be keeping an eye on things to ensure the right balance of match quality versus queue time.

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, just posting what Bliz said on the matter.

Interestingly they give an example based on the game ladder play experience. Last I checked to Reforge doesn’t even have a ranking system. However, that’s great they want to make Arranged Team queues faster, but once when random players such as myself quit playing. Then they can have their long queues back to. The quality of games are terrible now in 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4, because Random teams just don’t have a chance with discord and unit sharing.

I get you’re just linking what blizzard said, but from what I can see it’s not working, it’s not fun getting destroyed. Making a long time player such as myself quit playing.

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It can’t be as bad as it used to be.

Earthquake and Volcano don’t work on ally bases any more.

There is nothing more painful then a late game betrayal…

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Wow, that never happens in warcraft 3. I’m sorry you have to play such grueling matches.

10 year starcraft 2 streamer here, Former Rank Top 5 Premade in RoC.

It’s only going to get worse, they’re going to use the SC2 match maker for this game.

Trust me, you’ll quit eventually it really does suck.

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just usw w3champions ladder!

Just like in SC1 blizzard will shut down all the private servers, wouldn’t get your hopes up on that.

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this ladder does not use private servers - it uses customgames

Ah, that’s not a terrible idea. I doubt anyone will want to play it when the automated match maker releases though.