First time playing SC1

So… ive played a bunch of SC2, not very competitively mind you, but still quite a bit. And i decided today to go and play the SC1 (non-remastered) terran campaign.

and oh god… SC1 is so… janky. only select 12 units at a time and you can only queue units in one rax at a time? oof.
The pathing is dumber than a bag of rocks too lol. (Yes i know this game is like 20ish years old or something)

Really makes you appreciate SC2.

the sound of the marines shooting is surprisingly… satisfying. i dont know why.

The firebat unit portrait is horrifying. Same thing with the science vessel.

The zerg “style” is much better actually. The zerg looks really gross, as if they are actual horrifying monsters. When structures die, the holes they leave look much grosser than the SC2 version. The SC2 zerg structure death-holes just look… idk forgetable? un-noteworthy? not that gross?

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First of all SC2 and SC1 are good games。
From an athletic perspective, SC1 is better, because in SC1 you can clearly see the game process between the two sides,You can always tell who has the advantage and who has the disadvantage.
But SC2 seemed even more chaotic. The two sides always developed very fast, and then entered the decisive battle of the two mess of forces.The losing side in the decisive battle loses a whole game。SC1 will always have many battles. Even if you lose in one battle, you can retreat and choose a chance to fight again.

So whats the point you are trying to make here? You come in a SC broodwar forum to tell us SC2 is better visually and mechanically? Lol, just go back to SC2 if you dont like SC remastered and stop complaining

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??? first off. i wasnt even playing on the remastered version. i was playing on the free original version.

Ive seen some vids on the remaster, and it looks really good.

Also i mentioned that the zerg designs were better in SC1 than in SC2.

This wasnt ment to be a complainy post.

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The only thing I really wish was in SC:BW that is in SC2 is the pathing. Aside from that SC:BW is better in all regards.

Actually he just complimented Broodwar lol…
LEarn to read than think than write …
No need to spread your hate on innocent people …

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THan it wouldnt be broodwar …

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Actually, I agree with you。
SC2 is better than SC:BW everywhere。But it just doesn’t look good。
Even when I like to play SC2 the most,I also don’t like watching SC2 games。

No way. Then there wound’t be things like muta stacking and micro.

Mutalisk harass in SC2 is kind of comical.

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We consider the clunky mechanics a feature – it makes the game harder to control, and you have to know the ins and outs of unit control and army movement etc. to do it well. It separates players much more, compared to SC2 where the emphasis is on different things (for better or worse, if you ask Brood War players like me, for worse :smiley: ).

Overall it’s a different game, and the terrible pathing is one of the reasons we consider it to be a much superior game. Not sure if you understand, but we have said this so many times it gets tiring to elaborate (hence the attacky-attitude from previous posters).

Anyhow, welcome to BW, enjoy the game, it truly is the best RTS and game ever, truly difficult, never changing, yet constantly evolving. The deeper you go, the more you realize how much more infinite depth there is to it (unlike SC2, which is, well, as shallow as it looks).

Here APM and mechanics is part of the strategy (as in, you have to have a very good understanding of what you should prioritize at any given moment, because of the clunky pathfinding and control limitations). Gives it a couple of extra layers.

Encourage you to look up the foreign BW discord, that’s where all life is happening these days, and of course TL. Be careful, you might get hooked on an incredibly demanding game :slight_smile: Enjoy BW!

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God no.

that’s the thing that would absolutely murder the game and why I cannot go back to SC2.

Waaaaaay too much super blackhole style deathball clumps. I’ll take Dragoon/Goliath pathing 10/10 over that ****.

Lol no. The only thing SC2 does better is letting you select your team color XD

To be honest, I don’t like to play SC1。But I really love watching SC1 games。I think SC1 is the real eSports game.The thing I enjoy most every day is to lie in bed and watch the anchor performance SC1 on Afreeca。

Continuing the discussion from First time playing SC1:

There is that. The giant balls of units look so dumb.

Oh yeah, unit looks- it’s amazing how much better the style is for almost every unit in SC1 compared to SC2. The shiny terran buildings, the geometric protoss structures, and the icky-exposed kind of look the Zerg have.

The units too- the less bulky appearance that most SC1 units have compared to SC2 such as the Marine and Ultralisk.

The FX and sound especially, such as hearing 12 marines fire on a building, or hearing the siege tanks fire off rounds, or the reaver’s scarabs bursting.

Oh yes, units too- a Starcraft game without dragoons or reavers or goliaths is simply not a Starcraft game i’d like to play. (i know the three appear in mods and campaigns, but that is a somewhat minor part of the game.)

When it comes to the comparison, SC1 is far and away better I think, but the modern aspects of SC2 appeal to many.

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I have to make more than 7 control groups to manage 84 or more units.
I thing i dislike is that you can add ONLY 1 structure in a control group.

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I like SC1.But what you have to admit is that people now prefer realistic picture quality and simpler operation

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No…
There is where Screen locations,Alt- groups, unit following (right click on unit to make it follow even works on enmies though your unit will attack it if it can attack), Patrol command, shift commands, and best of all Drop shipps…

I think that is why WarCraft III (and later WoW) whas so overwhelming. It casualised the genre enough with things like already explored maps, workers start automatically work, buildings part of group, better group pathing but still hard enough to skill for making real difference with manually microing giving tactical advantage retreating and fight later.

Honestly I am still noob too and already gaved up to wish for things like workers autostart at rally point but I still hope and wish, that maps will be automatically explored because it is hard enough to start so with overview how maps would look it would do really good and the proplayers would already know them without exploring I bet.

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By the way sorry, for the bad state of the community -> toxic, some at least … as you saw …
Other are really nice though …
Sorry for worst online hosting/ joining expierince of many games out there…
One of the worst freindship add systems …
Toxic community, MAy it be korreans joining other Gateways with allied observers that tell them via chat command what the enemy is doing …
People insulting you personally in every possible way …
Race, sexual orientation, intellect, normal behaviour, helping, being better player than them, etc. without any knowledge about you …

I will be honest it is not only “SADDD”, but just annoying where you end up toxic yourself…
And one of the big reasons you should, either just go away while you can, host your own games, DND all the time

By the way is there any command to not see what the player write in the ingame chat ?

Add to that the poor state of the game itself … Bah …
Nightmare, learn some language anything is better that
SC remastered online custom games…

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