Would Disruption Web be useful in multiplayer?

[BabaYaga-13624]

@TerranicII-1450

The only “counter” to Maelstrom is to disable or kill the caster before it has any chance to cast the ability

That fully applies to EMP, Abduct and FB.
Not sure why you try to obfuscate the EMP devastating effect on TvP. I guess how the terrans would feel for a “non lethal” Storm that only halved the terran HP-pool was instant, cast from a DT and with a Radius of EMP.

[TerranicII-1450]

@BabaYaga-13624

That fully applies to EMP, Abduct and FB.

None of which are anywhere near as devastating as stunning a large portion of your opponent’s army.

Abduct, Feedback, and IM only affect individual units at once.
EMP affects multiple units, but it is limited to shields (which are often only a portion of the target’s health) and energy; and it doesn’t crowd-control the opponent at all otherwise.

[Imperius-2867]

Are you going to keep responding until i shut up?

@TerranicII-1450

Maelstrom is instant-cast, provides no visual indicator before it hits, and prevents any action for its duration

Emp is near instant cast,provides no visual indicator before it hits and removes half health of protoss units,immediately

@TerranicII-1450

Disruptors give the opponent a reasonable amount of time to see the shot coming and to dodge it. The shot can also be prevented entirely by killing or disabling the Disruptor before it expires.

yet they are broken when 360 degree nova full of units connect
In GSL S1 Parting dropped dts to Maru’s main then sent novas to his main army.
Maru was busy with his main and took 2 full novas to his bio army,it was over

@TerranicII-1450

Fungal gives the opponent a reasonable amount of time to see the shot and dodge based on distance. It no longer prevents movement, so the player can reduce damage from subsequent Fungals by splitting and retreating.

not if they come burrowed and unburrow,after fungal hits,with -75% movespeed you aren’t dodging any biles

@TerranicII-1450

Corrosive Bile provides a visible indicator of its target and takes a long time to land; so everything apart from a sieged Tank has enough time to dodge.

read above

@TerranicII-1450

Psionic Storm’s damage can be significantly reduced by moving out of it after it starts.

it takes around 2 seconds to kill stimmed marines

@TerranicII-1450

EMP does not kill units, and it can sometimes be mitigated after the fact by immediately retreating or picking up the affected units in a Warp Prism… It’s effect is nowhere near as devastating as a Maelstrom, and neither is the affect of any of the previously mentioned abilities apart from the Disruptor’s shot (which can still be dodged or prevented unlike Maelstrom).

talked about it earlier but no,gateway units has no capacity to outrun stimmed bio,especially versus marauder slow.
and protoss players only use 1 prism,that only saves 4 units

@TerranicII-1450

The only “counter” to Maelstrom is to disable or kill the caster before it has any chance to cast the ability. This is an unreasonable requirement for the powerful effect that Maelstrom has.

are you sure you have enough info for this?
Maelstorm only affects biological units,bro
You can use mech units and ignore it entirely
Whether be it ships or ground vehicles

@TerranicII-1450

Steady-targeting has no effect on Dark Archons, and it would take 2 shots to kill them even if it did. Furthermore, the Dark Archon can interrupt or cancel it with Maelstrom.

can be solved by making Dark Archon biological,if they can catch ghosts with observers with them

@TerranicII-1450

Maelstrom also outranges Abduct and it is instant-cast; putting Zerg at a complete disadvantage in that scenario.

yes by 1 range,if you are not fast enough your dark archons will be half screen away to cast anything or nothing

@TerranicII-1450

To put it mildly, Protoss with Maelstrom could only lose if they make several major mistakes and the opponent makes none (as any mistake by the opponent would be punished significantly harder with stuns).

I will reply this the “Terran Way”,don’t clump up versus EMP(mael)

[TerranicII-1450]

@Imperius-2867

Emp is near instant cast,provides no visual indicator before it hits and removes half health of protoss units,immediately

Up to half the health of some units, but that is still NOWHERE NEAR AS DEVASTATING AS OUTRIGHT STUNNING UNITS!

@Imperius-2867

yet they are broken when 360 degree nova full of units connect

No they are not. Disruptors are powerful, but there is plenty of counterplay against them to keep them balanced.

Sucks for Maru that he didn’t notice those Disruptor shots, but there is still nothing broken about them.

@Imperius-2867

not if they come burrowed and unburrow,after fungal hits,with -75% movespeed you aren’t dodging any biles

Yes you are. Even Thors and Brood Lords move fast enough with Fungal to avoid Biles.

@Imperius-2867

it takes around 2 seconds to kill stimmed marines

Yes, but they move incredibly fast.

@Imperius-2867

Maelstorm only affects biological units,bro

Originally yes. There is no guarantee that would remain the case in an SC2 version.

Either way; Maelstrom’s effect would remain outright broken against both Zerg and Bio compositions. Even Lockdown (a single-target version) had to be nerfed significantly when it was moved over.

@Imperius-2867

yes by 1 range,

3 range total if you include the radius.