Those are certainly some interesting ideas that would would decrease the number of people that play by a lot, and your other idea is just a joke I assume. And yes, Harstem’s series, “Harstem Hunts Hackers” has shown there are some hackers. But I know that a lot of people have submitted replays that were just them being mad they lost and trying to blame it on hacking that was just luck, but he or Hamster take a quick look at them first I think. Honestly, I think there’s a chance your opponent was a hacker. Although, your title of the thread of, “The state of hacking in this game is out of control”, is a little bit ridiculous. Because it’s not at all out of control, it’s a very rare occurrence.
Yea hard to blame yourself for that though. For most people gaslighting is just a defensive mechanism to their world view being challenged. Anytime they encounter a set of facts or convincing argument that starts to melt the ice of their paradigm you can expect an emotional or aggressive response that is typically irrational.
The sign of a strong mind is to invite that heat and see just how much ice ought to melt.
That’s the wonderful thing about subjective statements. You can interpret them to mean whatever you want them to mean. It’s a strategy lawyers use to avoid litigation and also to give misleading statements to the jury. You added your own interpretation to the statement and then blamed me for it. You know asmongold is smart because he understands this. He will have a video on youtube titled “X person is cooked”. Good luck suing him because the definition of “cooked” is too vague. People fill it in with their own meaning. What does “out of control” mean? What does it mean if hacking is “out of control”? Well that’s up to you to decide because it’s a subjective statement.
Nope, it’s the plan of world leaders to implement such a digital ID. Red states are already requiring it to access adult websites but they will expand it to the internet in general. It will operate similar to a public park. Everyone there can see your face but nobody knows your name unless you tell them. But if you do something suspicious the police can detain you and ask you for identification. So if you are publicly intoxicated and harassing children at the park then, well, get ready to be arrested. Public nuisance laws are going to be used to crack down on internet harassment and trolling. Yes, websites like this will be the most affected because they are packed to the brim with sadistic, narcissistic, psychopathic trolls.
In just another thread I explained how to deal with trolls. I gave a psychological profile and explained they are desperate for attention to the point they will harm other people for that attention. A troll proceeded to compare me to a natsee for my great crime of helping people identify trolls. So yeah the people on this site, if a digital id were ever implemented on a federal level, would end up on the wrong side of public nuisance laws, and they’d do it in the blink of an eye.
If someone is having a hard time grappling with a world shattering revelation, I’d classify that as mere denial. Gaslighting goes above and beyond denial. The gaslighter knows they are wrong, but are hellbent on convincing you none the less, and they engage in a variety of abusive psychological tricks to do it. Think of it as the abusive husband who beats his wife and with each blow of his hand he tells her that it’s her fault that he has to beat her because she just can’t cook dinner without burning it. If she had just cooked dinner and not burned it then there would be no need for him to beat her, therefore the beating is her fault. That’s gaslighting. Consider this statement, which is 100% a gaslighting statement:
If I were embarrassed or mad, I wouldn’t share it online. The best thing to do is put it behind you and forget about it and move on. So the fact I am capable of discussing it, publicly, means I don’t have any strong emotions on the subject. So why is he saying that I do. Well he’s implying I should, rather than that I am. That’s gaslighting. It’s emotional manipulation, emotional blackmail. They are saying you can’t discuss hacking or we will attack your on a personal level by making you out to be angry and irresponsible. That’s what they are saying. This is 100% a troll trying to gaslight to protect hackers. There is a 90% chance this guy is a hacker.
You see, it’s my fault that they attack me on a personal level. How do I make the attacks stop? By stopping my discussion about hackers. Got it, adventurer? You can make the beatings stop if you just cook dinner without burning it. That’s gaslighting. It’s emotional manipulation for an advantage.
Or, in simpler terms: https://i.imgur.com/EZ2Pjfj.jpeg
I can promise you that is never going to happen.
This isn’t something that can happen on the world wide level. And I can promise you that this will never happen in the United States. Maybe in some corrupt countries like China where they censor everything it would happen. But never in the United States of America.
And what does anything that you said have to do with the thread or StarCraft 2? It just makes no sense. But trying to discuss with people who are always right in their mind doesn’t work so great, so I won’t try to anymore.
It’s too bad there are hackers, it honestly seems weird, like, what’s the point in hacking? Winning by hacking doesn’t seem rewarding, it feels so good when you win and the promotion screen comes up, because you have worked so hard for that, but if you are hacking, you didn’t have to work hard for it I feel like hacking just takes all the fun out. And it isn’t like you are going to make money winning tournaments. But I guess some people just have nothing better to do and like winning.
That’s a very naive take. It’s already happening. Why do you think Elon Musk is publicly talking about the benefits of charging $1 for internet accounts? Because your credit card is a form of an ID. Republican lawmakers view the current governmental fiasco, from healthcare to inflation to war, as far left trolls having a disproportionate control over cultural and political issues (relative to their size within the general population which is minuscule). Basically, auth left trolls weaponized the internet to gaslight and emotionally abuse society into doing things it normally wouldn’t do. Every other issue is downstream from that. This issue is so bad that auth left crazies are trying to start a french revolution against american elites (after the united health care shooting). So yes it’s a huge problem and very powerful people have noticed on a level that causes them to fear for their own safety and well-being, and are going to do something about it.
This is already how the public square works, so it’s compatible with existing constitutional law. The only thing that changes is that your actions are linked to your face. The same constitutional protections would apply on the internet as they apply in the public square. It’s totally legal. If you are in a public place, people can see you and know who you are based on how you look and how you act. That’s exactly how the internet should work.
If such laws were implemented, 99% of internet abuse would disappear in a puff of smoke because the people who act this way only do it because it’s low risk. They don’t have the courage to do bad things if there could be real life consequences.
What’s happening is a well known behavior that has been studied and documented throughout history. A good comparison would be the 1900’s racial lynchings, just of a digital sort. You have a bunch of men wearing masks doing digital lynchings where they psychologically abuse anyone they disagree with. They would wear masks because the mask & group identity provides them with a psychological shield to do terrible things. The masks need to come off.
What’s the probability someone would hack in SC2 if on the loading screen it displayed their own face? I am guessing hacking would basically never happen. What’s the probability that someone would defend hackers and gaslight those attempting to catch them? I am guessing also a 0.0% chance if the masks were removed. Anonymity is a poison to society and you see it in everything from hacking in video games to united healthcare shootings.
The fact that people can’t contribute anything of substance to a discussion about hacking except to personally attack a streamer is a perfect example of how sadistic and narcissistic and psychopathic the internet has become. I 100% guarantee none of these people would have the courage to even show their face on the internet, let alone say the things they have said here to your face. The internet is the embodiment of cowardice and we can use that cowardice to shape it into a better place.
In the wise words of TOOL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9vp7Jbc0p8
And as I pull my head out, I am without one doubt
Don’t want to be down here soothing my narcissism
I must crucify the ego before it’s far too late
I pray the light lifts me out
Amen
An addendum to this point: that’s why he bought twitter. The twitter moderation system had been captured and weaponized by far left trolls to gaslight the american public. All it took was leveling the playing field and we ended up with one of the most one sided elections in history. Kamala was always a terrible candidate and, in fact, that’s exactly why Biden picked her (it gave him impeachment protection to have a bad vice president). The fact that the left thought they could ram Kamala through shows how they thought they had complete control over the culture in america. Musk buying twitter alone invalidated all of the cultural gasligting from the mainstream media and allowed people to share what they actually thought without fear of digital lynching.
Why would Musk do such a thing? I think it’s because authoritarian leftists were using rhetoric similar to that used during the french revolution and echoing the words of Lenin and Mao. Anyone who has studied history will immediately be threatened be the mere presence of such rhetoric because it has always lead to starvation and death, with no exceptions, but most especially for the elite in the society. 15,000 people were guillotined for the crime of being successful during the french revolution alone. The father of Chemistry, Antoine Lavoisier, was amongst those killed. It’s not hard to figure out why Musk may have bought twitter when it had become a breeding ground for far left extremism. The United Healthcare shooting is a perfect example of exactly why the issue had to be dealt with.
But, they probably need a broader solution for the internet as a whole to fix trolling and harassment in general. A good first step is to simply remove anonymity from the internet. Everyone posts with their real face. They are play-testing the idea of internet ID by requiring ID to access adult websites, and they will inch it forward from there.
By the way, 17 gas 17 pool then double expand is pretty strong. I think it now beats hatch gas pool in zvz for example. Hatch hatch pool is also much stronger vs terran and protoss than in last patch. Normally your pool is giga delayed and you can’t deal with the reaper. On this patch you are 50 minerals faster getting the pool down.
I think you are actually even faster than 50 minerals because each hatchery delays a drone by 25 minerals. So you’re getting every drone after the first and second hatch just a little bit faster and that adds up. My estimate is that your pool is 100 minerals faster.
Hupsaiya is playing the nightmare WoL campaign. must’ve been bored of the endless PvPs orrrrrrr it’s a fun campaign.
Did they make it harder? I always play it on the hardest difficulty the first time through. That’s why I hated Diablo 3. You unlock nightmare after your first playthrough. You could legit mash the keyboard and win most fights. It’s like a kid playing smashbros for the first time. He has no idea what’s going on and is just hitting buttons. Well that kid could play through diablo 3 ez pz. As long as they don’t allow nightmare for your first play through, I won’t play Diablo ever again. I actually still haven’t played lotv campaign. They were like “oh by the way, we protoss forgot about an army capable of altering the course of the war! Oopsie!” and I legit stopped playing.
The game that caught my attention the most this past year was Slay the Princess. It’s an adventure game where you click through dialogues to make decisions in the story. At the start, you are given a knife and told there is a princess in a cabin and that no matter what happens you must kill her because the fate of the world depends on it. You try to find the right combination of dialogue options to save the world. That’s all I will say about the matter.
It’s a great first date. You just walk up to the cutie and ask her if she’d like to get some dinner and slay a princess:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1989270/Slay_the_Princess__The_Pristine_Cut/
“Sup babe. So you look like the kind of girl who likes to slay princesses in your free time.”
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“Yeah so I figured you and I could get some dinner and then play this new video game where the goal of the game is to slay a princess”.
It’s foolproof. 100% guaranteed to work. With this one simple trick, the woman won’t be able to say no.
No, Nightmare difficulty is one of numerous campaign mods created by the playerbase.
Batz is the type of guy that promotes his pawns to a king in chess.
Kings obey the same rules that govern MMR in sc2. A player begged me for a free win, saying that I always win. What would loss cost me when I will win every game in the future, he remarked. I told him winning isn’t winning without winning. The process matters just as much if not more than the outcome. You could have an excellent outcome (8,000 mmr) but nobody will respect it if you are a hacker. Kings have the same issue. A crown only has power if the people respect it. The process of becoming a king and the acts of the crown are what make the king a king, because without kingly behavior he ceases to be a king. It’s called the consent to govern. It’s the reason julius caesar was a mighty leader that the roman senate feared. He had the consent to govern and they did not. Convincing themselves that he had grown to powerful, that he would become a dictator, that they were acting to save Democracy, they violated the consent to rule and killed the king. Their actions lead to the end of the Roman Empire. You could make some rather apt comparisons to the modern day situation with DRUMPF right down to how his opposition gaslights themselves into believing the ends justify the means because they are saving democracy.
If the MMR system is governed by similar logic then similar patterns should emerge. Is Serral a goat, or does he just click fast? Is Caesar the Emperor, or is he a tyrant? The tyrannical APM spammers fail to realize esports exist only because viewers consent to watch. 7,000 mmr is only impressive if people find it impressive.
This is the fundamental crux of power that western culture has lost. It occurs everywhere from Hollywood to spamming clicks in video games. People watch your movies because they consent to it. They give you power to create movies, through funding via free market transactions, because you use that power to act in the benefit of the people. Because film makers thought THEY dictate the film culture, there is now a crisis in the film industry with companies losing billions. So we sit and watch something similar unfold in SC2 with APM spammers threatening to retire if EWC isn’t announced soon. That simply isn’t how it works. You either fill market needs or you are irrelevant. Filling market needs, you are endowed by others with power, but can only use that power to act in the market’s interests, so do you really have any power, or does power merely flow through you? You are the conduit of power, the creator of outcomes, but only if those outcomes meet market needs.
It’s a natural law of the universe. Those who wield power cannot choose the outcome. Those who choose the outcome cannot wield the power. In the end, power was not a weapon of the strong, but a force given by the people, who, in their own time and way, shaped the world according to their will. That is how a pawn became the king.
In case you are wondering, that’s a reference to people like Asmongold. CNN is floundering meanwhile people like Joe Rogan and Asmongold rake in the cash as they sleep. Long live the King!
I was impressed I was able to tie chess, Rome, Trump, Asmongold, hackers, serral and starcraft into a coherent philosophical argument. Let’s add in Breaking Bad, because why not. Walter did not have the consent to govern. To quote Jesse Pinkman, “I’ve got a job. It’s at a laundromat, and it’s totally corporate. It’s, like, rigid with red tape; my boss is a jerk, the owner is a super jerk. We were going to meet him, but I guess everyone is scared of the dude.”
By the way, what do you think their plans are for AI and robotics considering this framework:
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Julius lead the way so that future emperors could place their horse at the head of the senate because he valued their opinions so little. Now we have the house speaker calling up Elon to say that the senate has agreed to his demands. How does it feel now that you officially live in a plutocracy?
How did Elon receive his wealth? People gave it to him. Why did they give it to him? Because he acted in their interest. This is the thing politicians and bureaucrats and academics can’t stand about the private sector. People willingly give businessmen their own money while bureaucrats and politicians and academics have to get it through taxation and grants (from taxation). They hate having to justify the necessity of their expenditures because they know it can’t be justified. In fact, they view the layperson as an uneducated rube who couldn’t think on their level and comprehend their brilliance and so they don’t need to justify it to you or me or anyone else.
The brilliance of the private sector is that you can fund your own projects once the markets have endowed you with power. You solved a problem in the market and it deemed you worthy of the power to wield capital. So now you get to decide what’s important, because society trusts you. That’s what money is on a billionaire’s scale – the ability to allocate labor and resources to solve problems. You then go on to make a company that digs holes, that launches rockets, that reshapes world culture, that breaks up the densest concentration of corruption on the planet, that researches brain implants, and much more. That is the brilliance of capitalism.
Crony capitalism occurs when there is a disconnect between the financial reward and what’s best for the market. A good example might be how investment firms accumulate ridiculous amounts of money, totaling trillions of dollars, and now control markets to for some other goal instead of prioritizing the needs of the consumer. We’re seeing that right now with international investment firms leveraging their money to reshape american culture. Not woke enough? Well darn you just won’t get that loan you were wanting. So they are no longer acting in the interest of consumer, that means their returns will be lower, and that means they are no longer acting in the interest of their investors.
The solution is very simple. Market abuse can only exist when you control the market and can grow your control over the market via your control over the market. Anti monopoly laws exist to break up companies that grow so large they no longer have to kiss butt to the market. These laws simply need to be applied to banks and investment firms. I’d argue that if an investment firm has 12 trillion it’s time to break that bad boy up into pieces <= 50 billion in size. That means you’re gonna be breaking some of these companies up into 240 sub companies. Good luck abusing the markets when you have 239 new competitors and your power of the market is 0.4% the size that it was prior to the breakup.
Politicians and bureaucrats hate enacting anti monopoly laws because, in their view, it’s easier to regulate and control a single mega corp than it is to control 240 of them. The problem is that their hubris thinks they can control something that wields 12 trillion in market power. They obviously can’t, and so the agencies that are meant to regulate an industry become captured by the mega corp they are hoping to regulate. That turns the government agency into an arm of the corporation, and further entrenches its control over the markets.
The only way to solve this is to break up the company. Now there are too many companies to regulate. Oh well. Let the free market regulate them and use the government regulations to focus on the 5% worst offenders. So now you only have to regulate the 12 worst companies in the group, and rely on consumers making their own decisions to keep everyone else in line.
The bureaucrats and politicians hate this, because it’s equivalent to giving complete power to the average consumer and keeping none of the power for themselves. Remember how they view the average person as an uneducated rube who is so stupid they can’t comprehend anything on the same level as the mighty managerial class, and how they view businessmen as butt-kissers who do the wrong thing because it’s popular and who don’t have the resolve to do the right but unpopular thing. That’s why they never use anti monopoly laws and why they are always captured.
The solution is to move anti monopoly enforcement out of the hands of the bureaucracy and place it in the hands of the people. I think it should work like a snap election. If 1% of people in a state sign a declaration that a company is a monopoly, it triggers a majority vote. If a majority is reached, the company is forced to be broken up. There should be a governmental agency that offers a website that allows you to vote with your driver’s license and which adds any company to the vote list if their market share ever exceeds 5%.
The brilliance of this is that it allows companies to grow beyond 5% as long as they don’t piss off consumers. Imagine how good this would be for controlling insurance companies for example. Unreasonably high premiums? Time for a monopoly vote.
This wouldn’t allow for consumers to abuse the corporations either. There is a limit to how often they can break corporations up because any corporation <5% of the market won’t be added to the list. This guarantees at least 20 corporations competing for the same market OR any corporation that does consolidate power must act in the interest of the consumer.
Over time the effect that this would have is that corporations would cluster with geography. They would cater to the needs of a region of people who due to their localized proximity would have common problems and common culture. The anti monopoly threshold of 5% should be tuned to create enough clusters to properly represent the cultural and geographical clusters that exist in the united states. Anytime two incompatible clusters are under the same umbrella, it would trigger a monopoly vote. So it would behave like mitosis. A cluster would split into two anytime the internal strife grew above a certain threshold. Over time this would crystalize and find a stable configuration. In the meantime the consumer is lathered in an never ending stream of products and services and buried with wealth.
TLDR
Hackers are why insurance premiums are so high.
SC2 esports is more or less a marketing campaign. You spend money on esports to promote the game and drive sales. The problem is that you start to reach saturation, meaning you get diminishing returns from your marketing. It’s like selling cheese to people on an island. Eventually, everyone has tried your cheese and decided if they like it or not. The return customers are the ones who will buy it forever without the need to advertise, and the ones who didn’t like it probably won’t try it again so selling ads to them is useless. The process is remarkably similar to a range of other systems, like how a cells in a petri dish respond to a drug. Eventually, all the cells either respond or don’t – because there are finite cells in the system, infinite response is impossible.
So I explain this on the sc2 subreddit in a thread talking about how pro players are very worried about the lack of an EWC announcement. Sc2 may be reaching an inflection point where the value of marketing no longer outweighs the expenditure. In comes this guy who claims the chart is wrong, even though it’s derived with industry standard methods. Why is the chart wrong? “Because it doesn’t represent numerical reality” aka “I have no clue what I am talking about and am using buzzwords to obscure how vapid my argument is, oh by the way I am the victim because you won the argument but also you didn’t win the argument.” This is why I don’t engage with the SC2 community in general. I quite literally mean it with all my heart that a lot of the people on social media have severe behavioral issues indicative of mental illness and even outright psychosis. I don’t know why but I seem to attract them more than other people, likely because I am so analytical which is antithetical to the way they think and so they attracted like a moth to a flame. And so you asked why I don’t talk much on stream and it’s because of these psychos. I have no interest in interacting with them. If I acted like myself on stream, there would be a nonstop parade of absolutely psychotic trolls harassing me 24 7. ![]()
I just checked grandmaster on NA, top 1 guy is vindicta a known hacker…
imgur[.]com/a/OimqiL1
It’s interesting that you mention that. I googled it and found this on the waybackmachine: https://i.imgur.com/b9nWrEt.png
What’s funny is that, based on the build order, I had a feeling the terran I played at 5700 might have been vindicta. I remembered seeing a pro match where he did a marauder hellbat attack with 1 viking into a third CC, and that’s what he did to me. I already had a suspicion it was him but I didn’t know about his history. That is a really interesting coincidence. I get hacker vibes based on how my opponent is playing, vibes of who the player is based on style, and then find out a week later that exact player has a colorful history that involved hacking accusations when he competed in WCS.
My oh my, am I good at this.
This guy “scouts” no third & fast lair. Other GMs of similar MMR values would double bunker and make a tank. Instead this player, whoever he was, does a hellbat attack with a third cc which would instantly die to a roach push but uniquely countered exactly what I was doing.
I’m just stunned at the fact this guy is not perma banned…anyone who has been discovered to have hacked should have all of his accs banned. No exception. Yet this guy was not only NOT banned, but allowed to troll other GM players (wasting those peoples precious time who spent lots of energy at trying to get better at the game) for more than 6 years.
Wake me up when Trump makes another video roasting Elon on his many unprofitable businesses.
That’s part of the reason Trump put out the idea of removing the debt ceiling. If trump wants his legacy to be putting a man on Mars, they’re going to be printing and spending like never before. What do you think the P/E ratio will balloon to in 2028?