Did you even look at the graph? Protoss is slightly favored vs zerg. Nowhere near to terran’s imbalance, probably not even enough to call it an imbalance but still protoss favored.
Why would I bother looking at your graph? We know the data has been cherry picked. If you want a large sample size of players, why not just go with Aligulac? Oh right, because PvZ is 46/54.
Oh, Aligulac is good? That’s what I used. Now watch your reasoning do a 180.
If you are drunk you will see quadruple… not that many major tournaments have come this year to judge. If we see more than 2-3 with such Terrans THEN can judge balance
Bro, Aligulac April shows 49,76% TvZ and current period is at TvZ 262–229 (53.36%)
Aligulac’s winrates but not the glicko rankings. Winrates don’t have meaning for balance because they don’t filter skill and that’s especially the case if you can prove skill isn’t equally distributed in the sample (which I have). Balance can skew a winrate 45/55% but skill can skew winrates 1/99% which is why it is so incredibly important to make sure a winrate isn’t caused by skill before you blame it on balance.
Glicko rankings don’t have that flaw and are therefore much more accurate at measuring balance. Aligulac’s glicko rankings clearly show an advantage for terran, period.
The joke here being that you think anybody trusts you to accurately asses the skill of various pro players, I assume?
A fact I don’t like? These aren’t facts, its lies. Nobody on here believes you.
The same method used by Aligulac, blizzard and deepmind and the results can be independently verified by comparing to Aligulac.
How are topics filled to the brim with meticulously organized data, game clips, and cold hard facts “spam”
Sorry to tell you but this forum is not the TCF’s safe space
dude, P’s win rate in PvZ has hovered between 44-47% for months. keep applying your own ELO ratings in a game with asymmetric balance if it makes you feel good, but this isn’t chess and they are pretty useless.
By your logic, platinum level protoss players should have a 50% win-rate vs Code S zergs. That’s pure insanity.
The fact that SC2 is asymmetrical has absolutely no relevance. The ladder uses Glicko just like Aligulac and is wildly successful at predicting skill levels. Aligulac uses Glicko too and used its Glicko ratings to predict win-rates over 50k games and found it to be highly accurate. The AlphaStar/Deepmind team used Glicko ratings to rate their bots which obviously means they thought it was accurate.
Fact denial is not a valid argument.
The fact that you don’t believe something is not proof that it is wrong. Present an argument and back it up with facts. If you can’t list even a shred of proof to back up your claim then you are wrong. It’s that simple.
So, “kid,” have you accepted that last patch, Zerg was ridiculously OP and that your crying the entire time was unnecessary? Or are you still married to the idea that your numbers proved just how OP Terran was the entire time (even while Zerg players admitted they didn’t deserve the wins they were suckling directly out of the balance teams teat?"
If we are not talking about the current patch, I’d prefer to talk about the patch where Zerg went an entire year without a single premier event win. Thanks.
It’s just mind blowing that while Terran was winning 8 code s in a row, zerg couldn’t win even a single premier event and yet blizzard still felt the need to nerf zerg. Blizzard’s anti-zerg bias is just astounding.
Cool how that never happened, but OK, cherry pick, lie, it’s what you do. I can’t expect much better from a kid who circles 8 runways when I ask “which runway?” and thinks he knows 1 fifth of what a pilot does.
xD
You know the TCF is desperate when they turn to fact denial. Zerg went an entire year without a premier event win but this is unbelievable to them because in their experience from Gold league they have learned Zerg is so OP it’s impossible for them to ever lose a single game. Never once have they considered that maybe they just suck at SC2.
Closest they came was in 2016 (FOUR YEARS AGO) when they went 9 months without a premier win (while they had SEVEN runner up slots). This was back when Zerg was “actually” under-powered, but of course, you bring up an argument I never made, because you can’t admit you were wrong.
Zerg has had no option but to win for the last two years, the entire time you were bawling your pathetic little eyes out.
Zerg: wins 38% of tournaments.
Bourne: Zerg had no option but to win!
It can predict win rates. It can’t tease balance from skill, or who “should” win. How exactly do you determine whether Serral or Maru is better at StarCraft when they play different races? All we have are proxies.