Lowko making yet another video to make fun of the forums

It has to be due to the cancer twitch culture that SC2 has. I see no other explanation. It goes something like this. The streamers Cobra, Lowko, Lips and so on have more viewers than you. Therefore, they get to present reality as they want it to be. Rewrite history and so on.

It’s the same as 1984 with doublespeak. All day, hundreds of people, changing history. We must go to war with Eurasia! Then. We must help our Eurasian comrades!

It’s actually sad. Most of these streamers aren’t even that good. The game is so ded, meaning, so few left on ladder, that it actually made all the streamers into GM’S.

Even the abusive cannon rush ones. Pretty sure one of cobra’s boy’s is a gm cannon rusher on EU. If you want to know what the “pro” scene is, just watch the streamers on twitch. They all host each other thruought the day as well. So all the bots get carried over, to make money for someone else once said hoster goes offline for the day.

They killed GSL. So all that’s left is the abusive streamers. It’s really sad how they all try so hard to promote their youtube and scrape those pennies too. It’s around the time when Lipstem started promoting his youtube way, way too hard every single stream that i stopped watching him.

Anything besides GSL doesn’t seem pro anymore. Since 2017-2018 it’s just felt like a bunch of EU Patch Zerg ZvZ finals everytime i even made the effort to watch an ESL. This is the reynor/serral years and they heavily killed the game.

I do remember Snute making his whole pro career off of swarmhosts. Some other zergs too, Firecake, Targa and so on. However, i don’t remember there ever being that amount of cancerous to watch ZvZ finals every ESL event. Especially not EU.

The best you can hope for now is to survive until SC3 comes out. Game pretty ded you have to try to make it fun. Sad how they didn’t add any new team maps.

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Nice post. Yeah, I think most things come down to networking and more promotion usually trumps no promotion. Who gets the promotion? Streamers. What do streamers tend to be? Psychopaths. I’ve learned this the “hard way.” I wish I was “just messing around.” So, you really end up with people with the least amount of integrity having the most sway/influence.

They can create any narrative they want. It’s basically just like MSM. If a person isn’t given any alternative source of information or actual reality, then people are at the mercy of psychopaths, basically. At best… all eggs are in one basket, so the “news people” better care an iota about truth if you don’t want to live in fantasy land.

In all my time of playing SC 2 and having had the misfortune of talking to some streamers… the only positive I can say about any of them is… Hupsaiya says some real things, from the heart, here and there. Only person in the scene. Everyone else is flat out in on a scam 24/7 and is absolutely heartless. It’s hard to put into words. Not pleasant stuff to think about.

You know what bothers me about the maxpax thing kinda more than anything? He didn’t even do the build correctly. It was completely missing the “genius component,” so I was kinda taken aback that it was still considered that… Every person I tried to teach that build, when I’d tell them what to do… they would always do it how Max did it, years later, because… it’s the intuitive way.

It’s just kinda amusing how little curiosity people have. You’d think people might actually ask me about some of these builds… If I don’t know the origin or how they’re supposed to work, who does?

You know what the actual genius of the build was supposed to be? You weren’t supposed to hide your gateway.

  1. It maximized your ability to scout/stop your opponents proxies, because you would usually by pass their worker if they were going to proxy you. Or a worker would pass by your gateway and you could deduce if they were proxying, if they never arrived at your base.

  2. Before I started doing this, a proxy gateway ALWAYS meant an all-in, so it didn’t matter if someone scouted your gateway. They would, invariably, end up over defending. If they didn’t scout… you’d kill their expansion and win the game. It was a win/win build this way.

But… since we decided to worship a poser or something… who knows whether people needed to stop doing it or not. As is… it would lose to proxies if you did it how he does it.

I spent around a year trying out all of the variations. There’s nothing new to me. “You guys” are simply worshiping something I knew to be inferior.

After I solved how to properly open and how many units to make and follow up, etc, etc. Guess what happened? I was top 10 GM and I had the highest P vs T win rate for multiple seasons in GM. Do you think I didn’t understand that this was the best build in the game? Do you think maxpaxy created it before he had even started playing SC 2? Hmm…

It’s just so silly. It just goes to show how much you can do and it’s still “impossible to matter,” without having the good graces of the psychopaths. That’s what it boils down to. Real respects real… Fakes fear real people. Especially ones with facts that make them look less or expose them as frauds.

When I get around to playing… I’ll try to finish up P vs T, and hopefully make a case for “owning the Toss meta,” and provide a way for all to benefit and hopefully those who might create better builds going forward can follow the same blueprint, so to speak.

There really needs to be more review and consideration before people annoint people geniuses and “so and so created this build.” It takes way too much time to come up with a “genius build,” to just willy nilly name it after someone in a random fashion, at best, and have it stick forever cause “that’s how it’s supposed to work.” That’s so stupid. It needs to stop. It’s just fraud. Turning people into con men and stealing in multiple ways from others.

Me… I’m always interested in if someone did “one of my builds” before me… I’d like to know their thought process. No one talks about anything interesting. No one is even curious about the reason behind strats. They don’t even need to know what the strategy solves, why it was created, nor if it’s viable before they call it awesome and the person behind it a genius… if they meet some magical criteria that clearly doesn’t fit me…

If KingCobra is a genius, then I must be a super genius x5. Everyone could use some of this kinda promotion in their life. Must be nice…

I used to watch that guy. But he started doing cannon rushing. Don’t know if it was to get more viewers, but he did get more viewers by cannon rushing.

I still wonder what streamers will say about Playa and other who bash them, maybe in next episode of Lowko on field trip to the forums :smiley: Because as much as they have some hypocrisy and yes all the stuff you said, psychos? In What way? Only psychos I know are those with the threats usually on NA server, throat slitters are the most common species. Good? I dont think they ever claimed to be pro players but some like Harstem are… like as much as uthermal.

Also Harstem has taken games off Koreans maybe won too if i remember, and when your glory was Playa, all players including pro players were not as good, WoL pro players = low Master probably now. Excluding Mvp and other top Koreans though. let’s say the majority the level of playing was lower than it is now.

But I would rather they saw ‘I made this, I made that build ordrer’ from Playa. All others are just copying Playa, teh NA GM.

Glad you\ve been GM on NA but really you dont have so much competition as long as you have the skill to be high Master which for protoss over time of balance and previous patches… isnt so huge. Ofc it takes dedication, you cant be low Diam and expect to be GM with protoss but still more than with other races.

I don’t pick on him but the continuous badmouthing of Cobra while he is not here to respond and the infantile desire to be seen as the sole and only creator of all things Stracraft is really annoying and gets on nerves.
My God, the guy is bitter because i called KingCobra a Genius and did not use the same word for him!
As if my opinion is a kind of metrics for measuring everyone’s wit.
It’s simply my personal conclusion.
And by the way, i don’t work with the motto Cobra is a Genius and Playa is an Idiot. Never.
I like Playa and support him in 95% of what he says and stands for (and will support him in the future).
Why appreciating someone (Cobra) should automatically mean disrespect for someone else (Playa)?
It does not work like that outside of a kindergarten.

No no you’re not going to use that dumb excuse again. From what I hear, GSL is still Gom TVT just like it was in 2010.

Not like I waste time watching GSL anymore. Game deserves to be dead. Too many cancer terrans like whinemarine.

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Well tell him to respond then. You seem like his number one fanboy. Which means you probably watch his stream always. So just type it in the chat.

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No, i just see his videos, it’s a Russian chanel and i don’t speak the language. Why would Cobra bother to debunk the hysterics of somebody on a forum each time he has a fit? He once said here that “I don’t know you and i owe you nothing”. That is enough for me.

You’re obviously missing what needs to happen. We need a crowd funded 30 day christmas special of Playa streaming SC2 and SC1 (I want to see him face artosis). I would gladly donate my dollarydoos to see this happen.

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Don’t meet your idols, my dear Goba.

So you complain how GSL is now… after 10 years when past GSLs was Z and some P dominated? pathetic

The worst thing is that he complains without knowing how it’s current GSL which is far from GOMTvT era, I think he asked about that topic in another thread and I gave him a response, I guess he asked with the intention of not hearing an answer, current GSLs have the 3-4 usual terran and that’s all, distribution is pretty balanced except maybe Z numbers sometimes are low during the first rounds.

Yes I suppose another guy that left the game and speaks without knowing, oh is it Playa’s alt? Everybody knows T was strong in the early WoL but now? If not UP the recent patch only made them more competitive so they dont disappear completely like 2019-2020

What would you expect someone who has no claim to anything to say? Do you really want me to search for where I mocked him and told him there’s other good things I do that you forgot to copy? Where I told him to start walling in his cannons? Now, he does that?

Then a KingCobra fan came to me talking about carrier, disruptor and I was like look… imagine he didn’t create that… tell me one interesting/genius thing he does… and instantly the fan boy told me “KingCobra solved static defense. Look at him wall his cannons. It’s genius. He mastered surface area.”

This isn’t made up. If you haven’t figured out I don’t really lie about ANYTHING, to any degree… you’ve gotta be one of the biggest morons ever. So, for you to give me any grief… you’re either that… or a bad person. One or the other… cause there’s no ambiguity here. What I can show and say speaks for itself. What you talk about… is b s.

I just gave you a replay of beating what you tried to brag with (cobra beating ruff) with carrier, disruptor before KingCobra had even used that style one time. So let me explain this to the 50 IQ people. It’s not his style, if I was doing it before him and doing so every game. Okay? That’s how it works. He doesn’t need to know me. He doesn’t need to be my husband. He doesn’t need any connection. We just need to be smart enough to realize common sense.

And, if you had any common sense, you’d realize even if he did know me… he would still pretend he didn’t because… his whole claim to anything relies on saying exactly what he says, even though it would take a stupid person to give it any weight, given what I said above is clearly correct.

Just stop. I don’t care about KingScammer. How many builds do I need to post that you guys blabber about before you, I dunno… maybe you stop shouting about some bronze league noob in comparison to builds. I’ve done a lot of random things, too… but you don’t see me talking about them, because at the end of the day… it’s about winning games or not, not style points. You have no substance.

Not only are you going around calling the guy genius non stop and acting like he walked on water, but then you say “hey you can have the build he is most known for cause it sucks and was never viable.” So… in your world… the best build he has done is garbage, yet… he’s still some great genius. That’s all one needs to know. Not a lot of brain power going on behind what you’re saying. Chill. Stop.

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LUL who is cobra. That he have a fan?

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Kobra f2 optoss abuser… cannot refute flat earth theory… LUL

This is what astounds me. I HAD NO IDEA who KingCobra was until Beastyqt mentioned him a couple years ago. First time I had ever heard of him. I’m like who the f is this? That’s part of why I didn’t even give the guy grief, is simply because he was THAT UNKNOWN. What am I even hating, you know? Who? What?

I simply never cared for the longest time, so didn’t bother to look into him or try to state the obvious (that I had done that style forever).

On the other hand, if you’ve been on the b. net forum before… you probably have an idea of me. More so than you would KingCobra… And if I was clearly doing disruptor, carrier and even doing a coaching session on it before KingCobra ever did it, odds are I probably mentioned it on the forum. Oh yeah, I also streamed it on twitch…

After years of streaming, Cobra still isn’t a big streamer. Still gets a small number of viewers. Nothing he has ever done has become meta. Yet… I’m supposed to bow down, along with everyone else to “the great KingCobra.”

Did he do the style before me? No? Has he been ranked higher on ladder? Probably not. Did he innovate anything I should want to copy? No. Has he come up with any new/good builds in the past few years? No. Have I? Yeah… I’m the guy who created the best P vs P build and whose style is the meta in P vs Z now. Okay.

Just ask yourself, what would be the most annoying thing anyone could ever do in regards to me, given this? I dunno… maybe post about KingCobra in every single topic and post videos about him, at random mind you, having nothing to do with the topic or conversation at hand. And… I’m not supposed to get bothered?

I’m done trying to win the nobel peace prize or aka… world’s number 1 doormat, for no reason. I’m not going to just allow you guys to keep annoying me every day for the rest of my life, just to satisfy some sickness in your head.

I’ve given these guys, what? Years of free reign. Years to build a reputation and make money off b s. Yet… I’m a bad guy. I’m crazy. I’m mean. God forbid I have a day of peace, let alone a second of praise. What is wrong with you psychos?

To me, it’s like this… if I say anything positive about these guys… it legitimizes something that is illegitimate otherwise. I don’t even like guys like that. So, we’re not married, so I should have never tried to protect/worship these guys in the first place. I made a mistake in that regard. I’m done.

I’ve created the best build in HotS and LotV. And I have to hear about stupid random memes. But playa… it’s really cute. Really? Really? Do you guys ever hear yourselves? Is there no shame? Not talking to you turkey.

Strange, this was precisely what the Great KingCobra said about you…
Woops, Besty again. Don’t you think you should direct most of your bile to Besty? If i am not mistaken it was him who discovered MaxPax and named that playstyle after MaxPax.
Your obsession with styles that in your fervid imagination were “stolen” from you is not healthy.
Again, slow down, sit somewhere and drink a glass of cold water.
Yea, a lot of people know you in Bnet, but not in the way you think. World is full of deluded people that claim to have invented the wheel and the fire. Nothing strange that some cranks patrol this forum whining that no one would give them credit for everything Starcraft.
The more you rile about Cobra the less people take you seriously. Now you are between Avilo and BatZ.
A little better than Avilo and a little worst than BatZ.
In BatZ index you scored 8 out of 7.
Good Job.

By the way, you are fired from the position of the leader of Protoss Community and the Conclave decided to send You in the Main Loonie Bin in Shakuras.

You’re a scum bag. A complete and utter scum bag. Stop lying. Stop harassing. Stop annoying. Stop scamming. Buzz off. Not even anyone’s husband is this tunnel visioned on worshiping a man. Maybe find a husband that deserves it, psycho.

We’re not talking about believing in god all one’s life and then having to come to terms with if he were proven to not exist. No… we’re talking about a streamer who no one cares about, but you, basically, despite the non stop propaganda of being awesome…

I saw that you were talking about KingCobra’s brilliance in how he uses static defense, by using his building placement. You’ve annoyed me so much, that one day… I’m probably going to find where I was talking to Cobra and got him to do what, again, you worship. May god have mercy on your sad little soul.

The more I get riled about about someone no one cares about… is the less someone is going to take me seriously? Bro… you’re trying to be dumb and dumber where he’s like do you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world? But you won’t stop. Every single message. Every single day. What kind of idiot wouldn’t be annoyed by you? Who? How? It’s not possible. Stop. No one wants to hear anything that’s annoying much less the most annoying thing in the world. Go take your nails against a chalk board for an eternity somewhere else.

Look, clown, this is just the only vod I have saved from this time period that is vs Terran… It’s from over 7 freaking years ago man. Guess what it shows? Omg… proxy gateway, fast expand…,. Omg… did I copy it from Max before he started playing SC 2? Wow… what a genius. He even created the best build before he had even played SC 2 and he was probably 7 years old. The legend only grows…

Stop talking man.

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That link right there is more genius than anything Max has ever done or will do. He doesn’t even create builds now. He merely does w/e I’ve done. Duh. Durrr. Why is that? Because he wouldn’t be interesting, otherwise… it’s only what has made him. And… oh yea… they just happen to be kinda optimal builds. Hmm…

This is how you were always supposed to do the build and I knew this over seven years ago. SEVEN YEARS AGO.

There’s nothing genius about hiding your gateway. That’s basic pleb stuff. There’s nothing genius about losing to everyone who proxies you. That makes their proxy build better than yours… Sad, really.

Top 10 GM. I had the highest P vs T win rate in all of GM for many seasons in a row. And… ofc… I need to hear about how maxpax created this, too… and how I need to take notes from him. It’s embarrassing that you’re allowed to keep posting this drivel. It’s racism at this point. It’s embarrassing and your family should be ashamed.

At this point, you’d have to be out of your mind to bet against this guy being KingCobra himself or some paid minion. No one is this bad of a person, naturally.

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Kobra? Pating? Creator? Playa? It does not matter the name… all optoss abuser is the same… LUL

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