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What crazy tails and peaks? The only tail longer for Terran is the one going towards lower efficiency.

Protoss gateway units do replenish as fast as marines. But gateway units, except for the stalker, are mediocre in terms of efficiency.

Tempests are no doubt efficient units when built. I wasn’t contesting that. But Terran compositions are overall more efficient due to various factors, as shown by the overall efficiency charts.

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That shows that Terran is 8% more cost efficient than Protoss at IEM…
It also shows that Terran is 26% more cost efficient than Zerg

When looking at unit cost efficiency Terran and Protoss units are pretty similar. From dreamhack…
https://imgur.com/yU6zuDW

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I’ll tell you what cost efficiency is.

  1. A single marine drop can wipe out a mineral line significantly quicker than 6 zealots in an scv mineral line
  2. MMM can trade against colossus and disruptors with enough micro. Units that are SUPPOSED to counter MMM can’t even do that many times.
  3. A ghost can wipe out 600+ total shield from units and no one blinks an eye. Storm hits bio for a second and everyone loses their mind. A few ghosts can kill a clump of archons instantly (units that are 100/300 mind you) AND continue fighting. This doesn’t account for the fact they can also take out ALL the energy from ALL the high templars. With EMP removing shields alone, ghosts are VERY cost efficient. When you add energy removal and snipe abilities, well, you already know.
  4. The only counter Protoss has to mass battlecruiser is stalker/carrier, because mass carrier will get mass yamato’d, tempests are useless, mothership is useless, and mass stalker is too reliant on burst damage. Tell me what cost efficiency is when your strongest unit in the game can teleport anywhere in the map in 1 second while Protoss only has 1 nerfed recall to use.
  5. Mules. In the late game, you are AHEAD in economy. Protoss stops at 70-80 workers, and so do you, but you have MULES. You have MORE income.
  6. Liberators, siege tanks, widow mines. I could go on, but I know you and the TCF won’t get my point.

In short, delete your forum smurf account and git gud. Seriously.

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+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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Didn’t your mom teach you not to lie boy?

If you want to make a claim at least have evidence to back it up

Low skill terrans kids these days just lack manners

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On a previous post the vegetable said that he (the vegetable) has a Degree in…Mathematics.
:man_facepalming: :man_facepalming: :man_facepalming:

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Where is the lie? Prove that it is a lie! Are you lying?

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Terran unit is nowhere close to protoss. Even void ray mlre efficienct than marines.

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:man_facepalming: :man_facepalming: :man_facepalming:
That’s why protoss as soon as they see Marines …they rush …Voids.
Somebody put this guy out of his misery.
This is a GM Player (with a Diploma in Mathematics)…
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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“Unless protoss unit is efficient against their counters, they aren’t efficient.”

“Unless marauders beat carriers, they aren’t efficient.”

Bulbous words that speak nonsense and hate of terrans… while whining that void rays should beat marines or they are not efficient… the PPP do not love facts… only love protoss…

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Only in Starcraft somone will say that 3 is the same as 4 because of X. Tallk about people needing to go back to 1st grade and learn you to count.

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X is normalized in sample…

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I wouldnt want to. I would like to keep this as simple as possible so every one can understand.

With that being said. If you mine out 4 bases you clearly mined more minerals than someone that mined out 3 bases.

Yet people that play protoss is trying to say that because of mules that terran has more minerals. they are not factoring in that they have chorono. Yes there are a lot of differrent variables to consider however.

You can never have more minerals mining out 3 bases than somone that mined out 4 bases. I do not understand the logic of SC players.

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It is mining rate vs total resource mined. Protoss has higher mining rate than terran. Even with mules. On top of that they have more efficient units.

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Nobody cares about opinions. The data shows Terran is more cost effective.

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GM, math degree, but definitely failed elementary English class

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The link you posted in the OP shows Terran doing significantly better in match up specific cost efficiency.

Just because a few units, like Immortals, have really high average cost efficiency in practice (because they’re microed like crazy to keep them alive, especially in PvZ), does not mean that Protoss is trading efficiently.

Also from the link you posted: Zealots are at 0.62 - Marines are at 1.56, stalkers are at 1.55, Marauders are at 1.75.

The Terran units that are made the most have better efficiency.

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Misunderstanding unit counters is a big nonsense from you. A unit can be efficient without being spammed against units that counter it. If a unit is only efficient if it beat the counters, no unit is efficient. By your “logic” no unit is efficient… too many bulbous words and not enough logic.

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Can you speak my language well? No… so does that mean I win the argument? My second language better than yours… more nonsense from forum trolls…

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Sit down boy
You just got body bagged, take your L and fight another day kiddo

Stay in school and finish your education cause you need it. Remember not to lie, it will make your mom very sad to know she raised a liar

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