Now, I’m not talking about Pro play. Everyone at the level is using their units to the best of their ability and have the ability to micro 4-6 control groups at a time. I am talking about diamond - grandmaster players that do nothing but spam skytoss/mech or turtle into lurker/viper.
How long are we going to pretend like this isn’t killing the game? Almost every single matchup I get some scrub who never wants to leave the game and just sits in their base. They max out 200/200 around the 12 minute mark…amove whatever army they have, which will be extremely cost effective no matter how they micro their units, and then rinse and repeat until they win. If they’re ever behind they just sit back in their base behind a wall of defense.
This frankly shouldnt exist and I guarantee it is forcing more and more people to just up and stop playing ladder. Where are the micro battles HOTS and LOTV were known for? Now all anyone does is turtle turtle turtle. Lets cut them off at the kneecaps and nerf some of these bandaids. Make PFs weaker, make overcharge weaker, make vipers weaker. Fix carriers being an end game amove storm fest. Fix mech being a siege amove into a turtle 50 minute game. This isn’t fun and sc2 is literally the only game in existence that balances the game around Pro play. Every other esport takes consideration for their lesser skilled userbase.
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To my surprise when I found out the playstyle you describe, they were saving up 4000+ resources while building nothing in order to just rebuild an army and try again attack after attack. I thought they were being wasteful, no extra defenses, no extra production wanted, but they considered it fine at that point like how I could consider a 6 minute setup to be fine if I can keep up with supply, however the difference is often in the defensiveness. My 2v2 ally might wait until then to attack while I was defending or pressuring our enemies, but sometimes all I need is for them to attack with me before the 12 minutes arrives.
If you think about it, it is not very much at all to defend against one reaper or battlecruiser, or 4-8 zerglings or 2 stalkers and an oracle in the first 12 minutes of a game.
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I don’t now man, I’m diamond I usually never have to do this as I get constantly attacked harassed very early in the game. Still there is plenty of cheese to deal with nowadays.
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funny, the moment i read this my League of Legends launcher loaded…
i confess i understand the frustration. But I must say that Viper, for example, is a tool that helps to break the Turtle.
Problem is also a few units interactions, because they are needed at the beginning and then later become problematic.
Example: Roach/ hydra against PF… + repair by worker. just forget it!
alternative? high tec or Banling -harass worker or -more bane → snipe Base.
then you can talk about how “good” it is that 4-6 Bane eleminates an ecco line immediately … (also bane drop )
yes and no. Sc2 is an extremely a-symmetrical game (at least I don’t know any other game where races are so different).
because i think both sides are comprehensible.
is this just another BMFbrando alt? the person who calls everyone a hacker in game?
Aw, don’t like what I said so you have to make up stuff about me? Weird.
it was actually a question. you see the question marks, i was asking if you are that person, a simple yes or no would clear that up.
so if you are that person, i’ve made nothing up, and if you aren’t that person, i did not accuse you of being that person, only questioning if it is you. (i can’t believe this needs to be said)
Now, finding it difficult enuff playing Campaign mode!
The thing is Im not, so its pointless to accuse someone of being someone else without even knowing who they are. Thats so rude man.