again, he didnt die to the nydus/sh phase. all you whine about is how op nydus sh is.
Nydus-SH was so effective Zerg was able to max with Lurkers of all things.
god damn nydus/sh is cancer man xD
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so youre saying theres a transition out of swarmhosts? wow, what an unbalanced game!
How are you so dense and biased.
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Iām a Zerg and I agree that Nydus is a problem. I agree with the changes.
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ok, lets count the facts.
showtime fckd up his cannonrush, but survived the countergo.
showtime survived the nydus sh, even more, he was able to put on pressure on dark.
showtime has half the army supply now for like 10 minutes, but still survives.
is it that surprising, that in the end, dark wins?
But itās not just the Nydus, itās also how the SH design just is awful for both sides.
If you are Zerg you have this dead supply with a long cooldown. The gameplay with SH is spawn locust and run away. Itās boring since HOTS.
If you are facing SH you are losing everything to free units that have high DPS, long range(Locust can travel up to 25 range) and the unit that spawns them doesnāt require the Zerg to defend them(which they would if they had to burrow or root) since they always run away.
Not really since he was abusing badly design things.
ok, so you call them bad designed, so that you can claim to not whining about sh? 
good move sir!
Who can look at SH gameplay and say āthis is funā?. Really, forget balance.
Lurkers are so much more exciting.
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Swarm Hosts Nydus are fine IMO, itās playable against it, Showtime was dealing with it well but he wasted so many gas on HT Archons and couldnāt transition to sky, thatās why he tryed Disruptors, he was broke.
But they arenāt. Which is why Nydus is getting nerfed.
My opinion is that Swarm Host on itās own without the Nydus is a completely different thing than when they are together. I almost never see Swarm Host without Nydus but I donāt watch every game. Iām not saying your wrong. Iām just saying working swarm host in and out of Nydus has an advantage that wonāt exist when the Nydus is changed.
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its not about fun. its about balance. showtime did a REALLY good job at defending nydus sh. if you dont aknowledge this, its not worth talking to youā¦ yes, he lost in the end, but that wasnt because of op nydus/sh. he wasted too much by walking into lurker f.e.
This nerf wonāt change SH Nydus, just Nydus all ins.
I think Dark does not play very well today though he wins this match. In fact, very few Zerg use 1-melee against Protoss right now. He plays fine in the last match, but he still make 11 overlords when he has 191 supply.
ShowTime should transit to air units when he has a good size of army and Dark morph almost all his hydras to lurkers. Darkās economics is not good at that time.
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And I agree with that. SH and Nydus are separate design issues that need to be addressed since combined they made for horrible gameplay.
It will change SH Nydus because to get the same effectiveness you need to get Hive and a upgrade for the Nydus.
I agree with that.
Oh rly? SH Nydus donāt need the quick unload, since they will be spawned in a hidden locationā¦ The unload delay hurt only all ins.
And I donāt have a problem with SH Nydus, sure itās not easy to play against but itās not impossible.
Me too ;-;
20 damn characters
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