Zen needs a speed buff, he’s too slow and it gets him killed most of the time, he needs a boost in speed and healing so that he can be viable again, who agrees?
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No, he’s not. Get good.
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They should just revert his nerfs from back then and finally balance tanks and buff Mercy, so Mercy Zen becomes viable again.
Double Damage Amp, yaaay.
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He is literally the easiest target to kill and his mobility or lack-thereof kills him and you say he’s fine? He’s anything but fine imo.
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Because he has the highest damage out of supports, sometimes competing with DPS.
That’s your trade-off. You have a lot of killing power and a REALLY good support ultimate, and your tradeoff is that you have to have someone peel for you and less-optimal healers.
You don’t get killing power and mobility to protect yourself lol.
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All other supports get amazing mobility except for ana but she has a sleep dart as compensation, and due to the armor mechanic, he has no way of killing easily, especially if he’s getting focused. What’s he gonna do, discord them then TRY to survive? Yea, he’d be dead in 10 seconds, 3 if he gets hacked by Sombra.
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Baptiste’s mobility isn’t amazing. It’s vertical and it’s predictable, because you can tell when he’s crouching.
Each of his orbs does enough damage to mess armor over. Armor is mostly effective against chip damage. Zenyatta doesn’t do chip damage. That, + discord orb makes him a stronger DPS utility than any other support.
Yes. That’s the downside of playing him. Other heroes have downsides. This is Zenyatta’s. Trying to nullify it would make him busted. He’s not that bad.
EMP-ing Zenyatta is pretty strong. Using your regular hack on him does…very little. 
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I think he would be fine if we get rid of his shields but add the ability to heal himself when harmony isnt on someone
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Two questions then. One, why is his healing so garbo? It’s even worse than Mercy’s. Two, why is he basically considered a throw pick if he’s so darn good? His ult also gets nullified a whole bunch of times, like if he gets booped by lucio off an edge or RPed or Coalescence’d, etc.
zen need some sort of defense or nope ability.
Like Ana has sleep
Baptiste has super jump and lamp
brig has Shield bash and whip-shot
lucio has boop and speed boost/ wall ride
mercy has guardian angel
moira has fade
and zen has nothing he needs some sort of nope ability to help deal with flankers because if there is no team communication he will get shredded by flankers
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this would support a dps zen
Hes already dps as it is.
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His healing is “garbo” because he has the best support ultimate in the game that does massive amounts of healing, and because his utility and shtick is damage + increasing damage on specific targets. Trade-off is, “I do more damage than other supports, but I heal less”
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He’s not a throw pick. He’s doing better than Mercy. The main healer with higher mobility. :>
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but his ult can be denied by a single ana nade and if he gets moved away from his team like boop, hook or orisa pull orb his ult is not used fully.
Then why is he a support? He could probably be moved if he’s such a high damage character, they would move him to DPS like they did with Sym, but they won’t because people will complain about THAT happening and then queue times will be even longer. Plus they’d have to rework him entirely and make sure that he’s not too OP like Sym 3.0 first was.
Hes a dps in a sense that that is his tradeoff for healing so little
I just want a Skill-Based Dodge Ability.
Ctrl +WASD for 1.5 meters of movement in the direction you choose and .2 or .3 seconds of I-Frames.
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True. I have a problem with Ana in a different regard, though, so it’s not like I feel that all of the supports are balanced. I don’t believe Ana is. :x
i think they just need to tweek her nade to not do as much damage so its more useful for healing or denying heals but it should do less damage.
And can be EASILY destroyed by any and ALL flankers, like Doomfist, Sombra, Genji, Tracer, Winston, and Wrecking Ball. He can also get killed by FireStrike because of his low HP with armor and get one-shotted by Widowmaker, Hanzo, Ashe, and Soldier 76.