Can someone please explain to this to me: when someone on the team says we need more heals and that I need to swap off Zen, but I have gold healing (without trance) with an Ana/Moira on our team… why is it when I tell them this they usually say something like “it doesn’t matter, we still need more heals.”
Like, for real? It doesn’t matter that a Zen is out-healing an Ana/Moira? From a purely objective standpoint, it feels like it should matter if the teams main healer is being out-healed? Just for reference, Zenyatta heals are 30/s where Ana/Moira heals are 65/s.
Instead of giving the Ana/Moira grief for DPSing they’d rather just crap on Zen players for some reason. I understand the logic of “yo, Moira is DPSing so we need someone with higher output heals” but that is never their response.
I won’t argue passionately since I’m kind of spitballing here but maybe your heals are a lot like the damage medal? You can do a lot of damage and still not kill anything or you can get a lot of snipes and still not kill the right targets.
Maybe they need more burst heal for specific situations and you’re spreading your heals too thin? Idk.
It might not matter at lower rank because almost anything can work there. I once had a game on Kings Row when some guy on my team said that Lucio sucks on defense. I argued that the attacking team might nanoblade but he didn’t agree with my opinion. Also I manage to climb out of low gold into low plat using Lucio and Moira. Don’t use Ana, Bap or Brig in comp, yep no meta heroes.
Interesting the onus is on me, not the one doing their job?
So if someone gets caught cheating off someone else’s homework, they shouldn’t be punished… the person who’s homework they cheated off of should bear the brunt of the responsibility.
Most people wanna healers to be heal bots that just enable their sick 9K nanoblade team wipes with ton of spinning and sparkles. It is common, especially nowdays - “Healer should heal while I play”. Dunno what rank you at but average player rather like to catch boolets with their face and going on mad flank alone behind enemy team. So therfore there is a lot of healing needed to keep team alive. Too much for single main healer at times.
As you said you had gold heals with Zen agnist Ana/Moira. So cleraly she was DPSing and you were asked to switch. Dunno whole picture tho. Was second healer in voice chat? Was in team with someone? Spoke in chat at all? Noone asked about heals?
Usually thought process look like this:
“I die a lot. Why? Lets press tab. Oh, we have Ana/Moira - big heals and Zen. Yup thats why. Hey Zen go Mercy or something!”
It’s a matter of metrics when it comes to healing though, no?
If you have two healers, one of them will be healing more. The medal you have tells you where you compare to the other healer.
The only exception would be having a Roadhog or Soldier on the team, but if you’re talking straight healing output, I don’t get how having gold in healing isn’t a good metric?
no, it’s not. Winning or losing teamfights entails understanding WHY you are winning or losing. Zenyatta in the current meta doesn’t set up any win conditions and that’s the problem.
if you heal 2000 with one Transcendence, but outside of that you heal 30 HPS, it’s hardly something to be proud of. Particularly if after transcendence you lose the fight.
Let’s say you are attending the WORST school in the country. You get A grades sometimes (sometimes because I genuinely don’t believe that you get gold healing every game). Is that something to be proud of? In my opinion no.
Anyway, simple breakdown with bullet points:
Zenyatta is a 80% a DPS hero 20% support, if you are rarely in the killfeed you should swap much like a McCree who is rarely in the killfeed should swap because this implies you have bad aim or at least not good enough aim to land killing blows (Zenyatta definitely has enough burst to get killing blows).
if they have a flanker heavy comp (Winston, Doomfist, Tracer) you should swap if you find yourself dying often. Winning vs a Tracer as Zen depends on a lot of things but generally 1x flanker is not a problem. Beating something like a Genji AND Tracer diving you together is something that not even the best Zenyattas in the world can do.
if they don’t have a strong offensive ultimate like Nanoblade, Grav etc. Transcendence is generally useless. You shouldn’t swap necessarily here but also not hold onto Trans forever. Whenever 2-3 teammates are low HP, use it to force an offensive push.
if your team by the nature of the SR you are playing at is playing not optimally, specifically in low elo tanks require more healing generally as they don’t know how to use the damage mitigation each tank has efficiently, you should either swap or not. Here it’s not your fault but it depends if you wanna win the game on a non-Zenyatta hero or lose it on your 1 trick.
Anyway: stats are literally IRRELEVANT in this game, the sooner you realize it and start focusing on what actually matters, the sooner you win the game.
Well… gold medals are worthless. You outhealung a moira or ana is sad as zen. This either means they dont heal at all or they get killed first every teamfight. When your team needs more healing its irrelevant Iif you have gold healing allready with Zen, because you said it yourself… Zen heals only 30hps. So your team needs more healing to win fights, than you should give them more healing.
Trust me when I say… Zen is in a terrible spot atm
Even if it isn’t fair and you aren’t the one under performing it is still best to switch. Your teammates shouldn’t be flaming you (or your other healer for that matter) and if they are you can always report them. Personally, even if I really want to play Zen, if I notice the other healer isn’t healing enough I will switch to someone who can make up for their lack of healing. You can’t control what other people do the only factor you can control is yourself.
Well in a team game, the point is finding a solution in my opinion.
You might react differently to me but if I see a problem and I have the tools to change it, I will try.
This doesn’t mean they are right to call you out but how you react is still your choice.
If there is a job that someone in the team is not doing for any reason:
Throwing
Not knowing how to play the role
Trolling
The reason doesn’t matter, I would rather take the hit for the team and play Mei as a third tank than sit, lose and complain because my tanks won’t push forward.
First, medal means very little when working out why your winning or losing.
No idea how the game was going down, you could have had the orb in wrong place killing your heals, the tanks could have been feeding their brains out and your other heal is overextending to die while you sit back and let it all happen.
Why people do it because they’re not watching what u or the moria is doing they are losing and they tab and see an easy scapegoat and blame you. Thing is your also pressing tab and seeing a gold healing medal and using it to justify yourself. That said if someone is saying I don’t care just swap, probably just a good time to leave chat and focus on your game.
Should you switch, totally up to you if your playing zen every game and doing your best your totally in the right to stay zen.
That said if the moria/ana is dpsing and memeing if you don’t switch you will lose that game and while it’s not your fault they lost sometimes you need to carry a game by boosting bad players. That said if you play zen every game and get better you’ll climb anyway.
It might be worth noting that you MAY HAVE had gold healing because of the way your team was playing–BUT they might have been playing that way because of Zen healing.
It’s a little like Zarya saying “OMG, I’ve got gold Damage!” even though she’s at the front of a choke, being pocketed by Mercy and Ana, and the heroes behind her (with no flanking ability) can’t get through because she’s blocking the way or the Reinhardt won’t push.
So your gold healing might not be as simple as it sounds. I know medals are one of the few metrics to measure performance in a match, but in reality they don’t tell the whole picture. Add onto that people playing flex roles, mains, the MMR/Matchmaking discrpancies or inbalances, and it’s very hard to nail down exactly what’s true and what isn’t.
