Zens still stronger than every dps right now besides Venture, Sombra
Discord S tier, ultimate S tier, damage no fall not bad
If Sombra/ Venture didn’t exist and tanks weren’t so broken Zen would be chillin’
Singlehandedly makes half the tanks unplayable
What is the point of the role limits if supports are just going to be give the option of becoming a third damage instead
Rework him to a proper support that does lots of healing and contributes little to damage
if zen makes half the tanks unplayable, i wonder what ana is
At least her effects have short durations and CDs
That said, anti-heal should have been reduced to 50% way back when the healing buff was.
And if I had to rework tranq, I’d change it to a reduction to damage/healing done and movement speed. Probably make it a lock-on ability to compensate
This thread made me laugh… was thinking what if zen had a slide and jump like sojourn then he would be so broken lol. Zen has so much damage potential with a powerful defensive ult it only seems fair that he has a larger hitbox and is slow moving.
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just getting out of LOS makes sure discord cant be applied onto you for the next 7 seconds, if that bothers you so much just go dive and eat the zen alive, or have one of your dps to go sombra
You’ll never accept what anyone says whys he’s good because you think your opinions on him are facts.
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starts doing calculations insert confused calculation meme here the math aint mathin.
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Who can consistently outdamage zens ult with primary fire?
widow duh but that doesnt count, its a one shot.
Oh a Bronzetake in the wild, rare these days.
Zen is still strong and can be an utter pain in the booty
I just think with all the super mobile heroes and layered maps in the game these days, it’s time to consider ditching LOS as a requirement for upkeep on Harmony, because it is serious micromanagement hell.
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That’s how it works. Widow can out damage any amount of healing.
I don’t think there’s any need to revert the nerf anytime soon. That’s all a part of the experience playing Zen. It would be one thing if this were just quality of life. But us Zen players would receive a straight net buff with the change. Of course they could compensate by adding a nerf.
He’s strong.
Situational? Yes.
Meta? No.
Still very capable.
u FR??? its called “one shot” for a reason…
the only thing i dislike about zen is the 7 sec discord cooldown. It’s so easy for anyone to drop, it sucks
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people already forgetting that he is completely broken when the meta is slow enough for him to not instantly die
It counters zen ult and is not an ability.
Thats called a one shot bro
not out damaging healing