People have started to generally aggree that mercy may need some nerfs. I play alot of zen myself and love the hero but I must admit that his pick rates are alarming high as well and he may need some nerfs also.
I think the best way to nerf zen would be to nerf his discord and provide him personally with a compensatory dmg buff to even the two out.
Theoretically if everyone focuses the same target then the source is taking %30 increased dmg from all enemies. Or think of it like everyone attacking the target is dmg boosted.
Discord takes almost no skill to land, strategy, positioning, or even necessarily awareness. Speed boost and antiheal are much harder to utilize well. AND DISCORD HAS NO COOLDOWN
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He needs a nerf because his pickrate is high?
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Correct. His pickrate has been very high through 2 metas. He either needs nerfs or the alternatives need buffs.
I love zen but you gotta look at the fact other healers are not getting playtime over him… And it’s not just bc he’s harder… look at ana the hardest healer
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Disagree.
Zen can’t solo heal. He basically requires your team to run a primary (or another secondary, not optimal) healer so if you nerf him, you’re hurting a character that already has a massive pre-requisite to be played.
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He doesn’t need any nerfs. He has a high skill ceiling. A bad player using Zen = worthless Zen. A phenomenal player using Zen = Godly Zen.
His mobility is already the lowest around, on top of him being squishy.
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LOOK AT HIS STATS PEOPLE
Nobody is believes his healing is a problem except the fact he can heal through barriers… If most people can nobody should be able to.
His issue is discord is strong af and has no cooldown.
Discord should do like half to 2/3 what it does if it’s going to be instantaneous with zero CD
Immage if antiheal had the same mechanic as discord and you could cast it constantly.
Or if speed boost was always %30 in Lucios aura without amp it up.
You got to love the double standards as no one want to nerf Zenyatta, but they are quick to nerf Mercy. 
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Zen doesn’t need nerfs. He’s just the best healer to pair with mercy who is op. When she gets nerfed his pick rate will drop too.
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I said this in a thread earlier:
Orb of discord now leave target after breaking line of sight for 2 seconds
Can now cast orb of harmony while reloading
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So eggs should be banned because they always go well with any breakfast? Ok, lets nerf yogurt while were at it.
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Why is he “the best healer to pair with mercy”
In a tank deathball meta!!! Are u kidding obviously Lucio belongs there… the one that can speed boost rein,brig, and zarya
…except anti-heal can hit an entire team whilst they’re under fire, discord is single target and does nothing if no one targets the discorded enemy.
What else you got?
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An entire team can focus one discorded target
Antiheal is worth nothing of it isn’t followed up on
Lol what else u got
Zen having bad heals, no mobility, high skill required doesn’t exempt him or anyone from needing nerfs. Pickrates are always used to determine if someone is doing to well and zen has been meta longer than any other healer.
His discord needs a bit of nerfing. We all know it and even the pros mentioned it’s why he’s a near must pick.
It already does this after three seconds
Correct. however with no mobility if he loses the ability to defend himself and becomes trash.
Discord should be nerfed but his dmg should be buffed to do the same as if the discord we’re how it was now
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So I suppose Zarya and Reinhardt are in need of nerfs aswell?
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no…she needs reverted so rez is on ult again 
but devs already said it wont happen.
so…you want him to still 1 shot anyone but a tank?
he is already the most lethal of all supports. (even brig isnt as good as she has to get close to deal dmg)
No not at all. They can be replaced easily and we see all the main tanks and off tanks used in owl.
They are actually meta specific. Zenyatta has proved he’s just non meta specific and dominant
No. Absolutely not. Thank you and have a nice day.
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