Zarya is broken (sort of)

All day today, I have been up against mostly zaryas and it is so unfun. If she only focuses on bubbling herself, she has a bubble every 4 seconds… That means you have 4 seconds to kill her. But that also means you have 4 seconds to kill her before she melts you. Even going from fight to fight, she has such a high charge still. I know they will be nerfing her in the midseason path, but that is still about three weeks away. I hope that she gets nerfed sooner because she is just ruining my games.

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I doubt it. They would not want to contradict their contradiction.

Im too braindead to even understand this

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That bubble only lasts for so long on her. And those charges definitely don’t mean anything when everyone focuses her and kills her.

A game we had where someone said, “Careful not to charge up that Zarya.” and someone just said, “Screw that, just burn her down.” and we all agreed and that was the story for that Zarya that game.

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while I would love that for my games, the other problem is that so many people dont join vc. I would love to have that sort of communication in my games

Could try pinging or stating in chat, “Hey, if they got a Zarya, let’s just focus her dead so she doesn’t kill us.”

Then again, as a Support, I ping a Reaper and it often gets ignored so… :man_shrugging:

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yuppppp, I am also a support player. my pings usually go without response…

I think the general problem is anyone who played OW1 aren’t even aware that pings exist. I’ve had to walk my friends through the keybind menu just so they know what button to press. Muscle memory is a big barrier when they don’t emote/do anything except spam singular taunt voicelines/hello.

The only people that ping are support mains and those who play Fortnite/Apex/Valorant where pinging was essential communication.

Pings are absolutely great for focus-firing. Anybody who is playing DPS should probably monitor healthbars so you can focus Zarya.

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I think “broken” is a stretch, maybe even saying she’s OP is going too far… but one thing is for sure, she’s favored in a lot of match ups right now… I’ve put in way too many hours with Zarya and I can confidently say I’m melting people a lot of the time.

You’re not wrong though, in a lot of the higher ranks… the MO is burn through her bubble and just burst her down, but keep in mind her new changes:

-She has the added health
-She now has two personal bubbles, depending on the situation.

So even if it’s just a QP game where people aren’t sweating and know better than to just mindlessly shoot her bubbles, she might still be skilled enough that she can plant a bubble or two in the middle of a team fight to where it’s impossible not to shoot one.

I do think they’re going to tweak her somewhat, but other than that, yes… she’s definitely one of those tanks that you need to engage with a friend. Buddy system!

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I agree with you here. I also thank you for you polite response. I wrote this right after a stretch of 5 games against her and I was definitely tilted from it. So yeah, I wouldn’t necessarily say “broken” just very very good against teams with little to no communication (Low ELO and QP).

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I don’t know if you like tanks that much, but if you’re curious, it might help you out to play a few games with her and sort of “get inside the head of your enemy” lol

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yeahh. I havent touched tank that much in overwatch 2, but I almost exclusively played Zarya in OW1. And like, the things I see Zarya players do in OW2, you would get punished for in OW1. It may just be I need to get more used to the game to fully understand some things.

She goes from 0% to 100% a little too fast with multiple bubbles…

Like its wrong at any rank right now.

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Wow who would have guessed that adding more bubbles makes her completely broken! Another one of Blizzard amazing balance ideas like letting Hog walk with take a breather and giving it 50% damage reduction also! If you don’t have a Zarya on your team you might as well quit.

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Yeah I definitely underestimated how versatile she can be now that she can bubble either herself twice, or two of her team mates.

When it was just 1 bubble for her and 1 for a team mate, she had to be choosier on when/where to use those bubbles. Does she try to get charge, or hold out to cancel an ability or ult?

I’m not saying it was difficult in OW1 to get charge, but like you’re alluding to… it’s almost like she has double the opportunities to get charge now, even though she can still only technically use two bubbles.

Something else I just realized… with her having her own two bubbles, she can bubble on the way into a fight, and again while she’s retreating. Who is going to shoot her and risk powering her up so they die faster? Its annoying sometimes lol

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0-100% full charge in 15-20 seconds is wrong.

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which was my original point that she has a lot of uptime on her bubbles if she chains them correctly. 8 seconds for a bubble charge to replenish, bubble stays up for roughly 3-4 seconds, unshielded for 4ish seconds, and then bubble and repeat.

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Call me crazy, but I never played Zarya often enough to remember, but I’m pretty sure even with the old way she could still hit 100 charge even within that timeframe. I’m pretty sure 2 full bubble charges were enough to bring her to 100 (if not full, then pretty dang close) and the cooldown wasn’t even 10 seconds.

Overall tho, there has always been two ways to deal with Zarya. Stop shooting her the moment you see bubble and focus on someone else until it goes away OR focus on her when you see the bubble, break it down, then kill her. But the second option really only worked well with teamwork and call outs. And now it feels like the only real option you got is to burn her down with teamwork. And by that I mean literally all 5 of you on her lol

I would like to see how she’d feel if her bubble was, say adjusted to somewhere between 50-75% effective on herself. I would personally argue with starting at 50% effectiveness, because I’ve always felt that Zarya would work best if she was the kind of tank that says “Stop messing my with mate and focus on me” not because of her charge alone, but because of how powerful bubble can be. Even if that meant bumping up her minimum damage in compensation.

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yeah. two full shield in OW1 would get her up to 80%. I would like to see that “she doesnt get as much charge when her bubble is applied to herself.” I think that would be a good change.

I mean, she feels powerful sure, but I mean so to Sigma, Winston, Rein, ect. Why people choose to 1v1 me when I play her idk, but the enemy supports pay the price for her team foolishly ramping me up.

I think people will figure it out a mid-high levels. They have similar mechanics in MOBAs. Give it some time.

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