In all honesty, Brigitte was overpowered and she created two metas. Graviton + Dragon Strike Meta which killed people through Transcendence. Was used to win nearly ever single team fight like in Season 11.
Then there was the Sniper Meta which actually happened. People used to hate Hanzo and he was a troll pick but then he became a must pick to win games.
Brigitte however was also the cause of these metas in happening as well.
I will say that Brigitte was overnerfed. Some nerfs were needed, but somethings need to be reverted.
Brig has not been overpowered for a long time, a fact that statistics will prove quite easily as she has been at best the second least picked support in all ranks except master and grandmaster where she sits at a respectful 4th most picked hero. This is over the last 6 months.
Before you go: “Oh but she has such a high winrate!!!”
Any time any hero reaches a niche level of play their winrates rise. Sym, Torb and Bastion all sit at a 55-56% winrate after all but most people consider them trollpicks. This is either due to a level of commitment to the hero from the player or it becomes unusual to deal with said character and as such you don’t grasp how to deal with them effectively.
Brig enabling goats is a bit wrong as well. Brig isn’t quite what makes goats work. Lucio is. Goats without the speed boost doesn’t exist. Brig functions more as the final piece of that 1000 piece puzzle and completes the picture, she’s just not the whole picture. Lucio would be at least 700 of those pieces alone.
Brig exists in goats to ward off dive, the one factor that has a small chance to deal with the second big issue with goats.
The healing.
Goats would also not exist without the aoe healing that lucio and sure. Brig also provides. And as the healing just stacks ontop of eachother without any sort of penalty we now have tank teams that can always make use of that aoe healing.
Now I’m not just trying to defend Brig. She’s not the problem, but she is a symptom of Blizzards inability to understand their own game and the mechanical skill involved in it.
Creating a single hero to counter one thing so well that it can’t be used. Well that’s bad. People were getting sick of dive and that’s why we have Brig.
We all know this is the truth but people like to pretend that everyone was happy about dive.
Now what Blizzard probably should have done. Not just with the dive issue but with all their issues is that they need to push changes onto ptr and let people try them out and see what happens. The PTR needs an extra added level of incentment to play seriously. Something like actually listening to feedback and communicating that perhaps some feedback isnt gonna work or is gonna work but wont see use because x, y or z. And they need to sometimes not push things live if they see an immense amount of pushback on their changes. Some system could be put in place to allow/not allow ptr feedback without quite a lot of play first being put in.
This won’t happen of course but it’d be nice right?
Anywho, we should have probably seen some mobility changes before Brig was created, seen some abilities shift use and the likes but blizzard balances things with a machete rather than a scalpel.
There’s nothing more tragic in Overwatch than a ‘Brigitte Main’. It’s like people who can only enjoy video games with cheats on or only play on easy mode.
Brigitte was hot trash from her inclusion into the game and has been the lowest skill character to ever be added. You should thank Blizz for dumpstering her so you can actually pick up a hero that has an ounce of nuance and learn to play the game properly.
I feel the same way. I never play Brigitte anymore, and (including uncounted arcade modes) I have accumulated around over 300 hours on her since her release. Now I just kind of … I dunno, think of her like an anime/cartoon character instead of a playable hero. Because there’s literally no reason to play her over a different healer
Brig main here, and let me just say, she isn’t ruined. She was too good at too many things on release, and while she’s no longer an assassin who can just go delete any DPS she wants, she’s still good at her job, which is defending people. She has clutch burst healing, and the ability to get in there and prevent your DPS from dying to a dive.
Honestly, I’m okay with the nerfs, because they actually cement her into her role she was intended for, the defending shield maiden, and you do have to think about what to do. Diving into a McCree/Soldier/Symmetra/anyone isn’t a guaranteed kill anymore, so you actually have to think about skill usage and positioning now, whereas before, it wasn’t top of the list.
Give her a chance dude, you’ll see she isn’t ruined so long as you’re playing her how she’s supposed to function in a team and not as a murderlord.
I feel like anyone whos saying Brig is the reason Goats is still being run genuinely doesn’t understand why Goats works. And hell, frankly it doesn’t seem that Blizz understands it either, cause they’re nerfing her the wrong ways and not addressing even the problems that GOATS brought.
Hell, one of the biggest reasons is one that has enabled multiple metas in the past: Lucio’s Speed Boost. Mobility in this game is extremely OP. Its why Ana’s Nano was nerfed to remove the boost it gave to speed. Cause when you can give heroes that aren’t intended to be that fast, you completely break any balance that went into their design to begin with.
This, coupled with AOE heal stacking is what enabled the meta to begin with.
I too have heard the same thing about AOE heal stacking. If that wasn’t a thing, then GOATS would fall just with that one tweak. By the way, how does Moira’s healing sit with AOE heals on a programming perspective? It has a cone of effect, but it’s kind of target-like and isn’t a static aura like Lucio’s or Brig’s.
Not quite sure what you’re asking? Its a cone as you said, and resource based. Lucio’s is always active and Brig’s turns on anytime she hits something. Which is, pretty much always if you have both of them together.
That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Moira winds up replacing Brig in regards to GOATS soon.
If they did that, they’d prolly make a flat change that meant all healing doesn’t stack. For some reason, Blizz has yet to figure out that large generalized buffs/nerfs hurt the game and haven’t added in a system to specifically tweak things properly.
By this I mean they don’t have any way to categorize things that aren’t just broad terms. Damage is just… Damage. Healing is just healing. Theres no subsections to it.
A heal tweak like that would be great. I’m a healer tank main, but I don’t think you should be able to make a character invincible by just stacking healing into them (Bastion being pocketed by Zen + Mercy plus his own self-healing comes to mind)
do you know how many times I’ve seen goats in the match’s I’ve play, like 4 maybe 5 times, so what the pros do are not anything like what happens at my rank.
So for you to say that pros are the be all and end all is wrong!
Thats why in every game with healers theres a very simple decision to prevent that. Its called "Focusing Healers First. " Stuff like that is only a problem when people don’t grasp that. However, in regards to AOE healing, it applies healing to all involved, including other healers which is problematic.
