You guys haven't fixed the reason why ppl don't get into GM

You keep doing these resets and “ranked updates” that I’m starting to believe you have symptoms of dementia because these “ranked updates” simply don’t exist or at least you forgot to implement them.

Looking at the leaderboard, it looks like the same exact leaderboard we’ve been seeing since season 9, since the ranked system got reworked. Which btw, last season’s tank leaderboard being HALF masters players, is an embarrassment.

It’s simple. The SR gains are abysmal.

People can’t funnel into GM and champ, because it’s still the hardest time in overwatch history to climb to those elo’s because the SR gains flat out suck and the modifiers make it even more volatile.

In OW1, they made a change where iirc it was either diamond+ or masters+, the SR gains became EXTREMELY consistent. It was damn near 25 SR, every single time.

In OW2, not only is it lower where the SR gain / loss you’ll see most often is probably 20 - 21, but something like an expected can drop it down to a 17.

Until this is fixed, this problem you guys keep “fixing” isn’t going to go away and the only reliable way for actual GM players to get into GM, is to abuse the “calibration modifier” to straight up speed boost their rank in the early games after placements. If they don’t get that lucky string of wins at the start to boost them up? sucks to suck, you’re probably going to be stuck in high masters with everyone else.

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Let’s give every low bottom player an SR boost so we can populate higher elo with players that don’t deserve the rank. Bravo, smart move.

If you want to get to rank 50 with 47% WR go play Marvel Rivals, a mild shock that you need to have a high win rate to climb ranks.

So having higher odds to win should give you more SR and not the other way around? Smart.

So you get calibration boost when it ends you stop playing? Because otherwise you will inevitably get to rank where you belong.

A mild shock you get hardstuck in elo where you belong.

Feels like you are Masters 5 player who thinks that he belongs in top10 while losing countless games because you lack skill to climb up and now you cry and want them to water down whole system so you can finally get to ELO where you don’t belong.

Interesting how they create the best machmaking system so far and a lot of hardstuck players complain that they are finally in ranks where they belong (but they think that they should be higher elo :clown_face: )

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No one is talking about low bottom players.

No one is talking about climbing with a 47% winrate.

More consistent SR gains like OW1 had so GM isn’t the hardest it’s ever been to get into for no reason, is the main goal.

???

You did all this to say a bunch of literal nothingness.

Why are you so hostile? Did someone spit in your food? Did your wife divorce? Did your baby headbutt your nose?

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Hey I was right, turns out you are a Masters 5 player that has overall negative win rate and somehow you want a higher elo :rofl:

Improving is the 1st step to gain elo, you should try it.

PS: Get off Doomfist, don’t embarrass my main like that.

Not masters 5, nor do I have a negative winrate.

But ay at least you’re happy.

https://www.overbuff.com/players/Westbrook-11486?gameMode=competitive&season=ow2s12

You forgot your mask :clown_face: king

Considering your complaint, I’m 100% sure you are still in same rank with same win rate as your attitude won’t allow you to improve.

Using overbuff in the big 2025… not a real human typing to me LOL.

Stats don’t lie, you can also open your profile so we all can see that you don’t lie. But you won’t, you are scared of us seeing the same stats as you had 6 months ago.

My profile isn’t private LOL.

brotha seen a season from months ago on a website known to be inaccurate and said “yes yes yes! my gotcha card is here! :nerd_face:

https://imgur.com/gallery/asdasd-W51acft

like gang at least try to make a point that made sense with was talked about in the post? All you came off as, was insecure. “I got my GM, therefore the system is perfect!!! nobody else can have it even though the devs themselves have said that GM and champ are underpopulated!” like okay?

If the system was made correctly, that would mean you would ALSO go up, so what are you moaning about lmao.

bro had a public freak out and started throwing insults at nothing

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So turns out that the actually increased the gains. Your main is masters 4 while your alt is masters 2.
Try to play on main and you will get what you want.

Hey so why do you complain? Because you can’t get to GM? Do they need to make system even more easier? Jump from Masters 4 to Masters 2 shows that they made it easier to gain rank.

Or did you get lucky and abused the calibration system?

Yes actually, I abused the calibration system (which is what a lot of players up there are doing) surpassed my main and shocker! I’m with a higher winrate, maintaining a higher elo, than my main… Because the ranked system is just screwed currently.

Again, it’s not about giving bad players GM like in the last ranked system OW2 had. No one wants to see 8000 GM1’s. That’s not what it is.

The problem currently, is that there is a severe LACK of GM’s. The devs themselves have been saying it for a while. GM and champ are extremely underpopulated. This post is me telling them “hey! You guys said it’s a problem but didn’t do anything to fix it. GM is still underpopulated”

I’m comparing it to OW1. OW1 had a better ranked system, and even that game didn’t struggle to get GM’s like this game.

Dawg last season, half the leaderboard for top 500 was masters for tanks. Are we going to sit here and say that’s normal? That’s okay?

Noooo. DPS and support also having masters at the end of season leaderboard. It’s screwed.

We’re not talking about scrubs, we’re talking about GM level players (in a ranked system that isn’t screwed) getting stuck in masters because the system is just not functioning. mid - high masters currently, is OW1’s low gm.

https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Competitive_Play#:~:text=Top%20500%20leaderboard,-The%20Top%20500&text=Leaderboard%20and%20the%20Top%20500,matches%20in%20the%20current%20season.

This is the reason leaderboards are not populated. A lot of players get theyr acc banned or make alts that don’t meet requirements to get in top 500 leaderboards. You can easily see that on your alt, it’s not in top500.

And in all reality current matchmaking system is far better than it was in ow1 or ow2 release, you can see that a lot of players that were GM are not in GM anymore, because they’re elo got heavily boosted.

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This leaderboard problem was still a problem even before they made this change, just slightly less so.

And in fact, it’s even WORSE that the leaderboard can’t be populated with GM’s, unless it’s spammed with alt accounts??? That just exposes the problem more. It’s hilariously underpopulated.

Elo’s weren’t getting boosted in OW1. Elo’s were getting boosted in OW2 with the last ranked system because the system was god awful.

People aren’t GM, not because they aren’t GM caliber players. They aren’t GM, because the system sucks.

No one had an issue with the OW1 ranked system. No one asked for it to be changed, because it was fine. In fact, it was one of the better systems in competitive gaming because of how straight forward it was, not riddled with resets, and it was for the most part quite accurate.

they havent fixed the problem because they dont care about this game at all this went from a AAA game to basically a game you find in the walmart bargin bin

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I mean he isn’t wrong though. I’ve been consistently top 500 all roles and have hit rank 1 multiple times for over 8 years now. It’s genuinely harder to be a masters player today than it was to be a 4200 player back in 2020. Now obviously the playerbase has improved but you would think that if you improve at the same rate as the rest of the player pop then you would remain around the same rank, but there has been massive deflation, especially since S9.

It’s crazy to admit but there is genuinely no difference between my m4 games and my c4 games. They are all being matchmade into the same lobbies and all of the players are pretty similar skill level apart from obvious outliers.

I should never be able to queue into an m4 game and it only be ever so slightly easier than my top 100 lobbies/Gm1-C5 lobbies, but that’s how it is right now.

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Most of this community is in higher Masters? Man I really suck I guess.

It’s funny that they implemented that change of 750 win requirements to get rid of alts but all they did was expose even more, how underpopulated GM and champ are.

It is a wasteland, and I also would love to know what “changes” they made. They said they made changes so that people would funnel more into GM and champ as they should be… yet nothing actually changed.

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The devs just have no idea how to fix the massive issues they’ve implemented over the years, from design, balance, QoL, and even the matchmaker. It seems like they change things based on dice rolls and leave it up to an AI language model to code it into the game. The art team cooks though.

I will just never understand how anyone can justify my M4 games on my smurf being almost identical in difficulty as my C4 games lmao. Escaping diamond on my alt this season was harder than rank 1 in s13 was, now that is a joke.

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The devs made higher ranks more exclusive intentionally.
Masters is now (at season 12) top 2% of playerbase.

That is roughly what GM used to be. But it was intentional. However, they re distributed the ranks again at this seasons reset so there should be some more percentiles in the very top ranks.

Probably wont be what it was pre -s12, but something between.

Yea except it wasn’t intentional or else they wouldn’t have been saying for months now that they aren’t happy with GM being so underpopulated.

Your words do not match the devs words / actions.

So far? It’s been the EXACT same level of underpopulation as previous seasons.

And it will keep being that way until they fix the core issue, which is SR gains being abysmal.

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