You got a lot of nerve demanding comms in bronze/silver

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Listen man, you can either sit in the LFG waiting forever for that last player for your six stack, or accept a fill player and be grateful. The number of people I’ve seen demanding comms/open profiles/etc. in LFG, for bronze/silver, is ridiculous. We already have a tank shortage as it is and you want to limit yourselves more?

You’re in bronze/silver. Comms (or a lack thereof) are not why you’re in bronze/silver, trust me. I don’t play with comms and I clawed my way into Silver, in fact I hit a new high on tank this season.

→ "But you need to hear callouts!"
No, I don’t. I need to hear and see the game around me. I have two ways to be aware of ult charge, which is either the tab screen or you using the ult indicator percentage voiceline/command. Your callouts are not going to help me be more aware of threats, I can see the killfeed, I can hear things sneaking up on us, I can put together that the Reaper who’s been eating the feeder tank alive all match is probably coming to ult all over us like a toilet in a frat house. Your callouts will only distract me from my job, which is trying to keep that Reaper from ulting all over us. I also don’t need you to tell me what’s Discorded if you’re playing Zen, I can see the little purple ball on my screen, I already know who to focus down.

→ "But we need to know what you play!"
You’ll know what I play by what I pick at character select, you don’t need to see my profile for that. If it’s not working, I’ll know.

For example: I usually play Sigma, but if the enemy team is running Moira/Symm/Zarya, I will swap off Sigma to something else, because beams are a bad time for Sigma. I don’t need you to tell me that. I already know that.

→ "But you need to synergize with the group!"
Not at this ELO I don’t. Unless you’re trying to play Mercy and Sombra into Ana and 76, meta really doesn’t matter. So long as you’re semi-competent at your job, anything is possible.

I’d almost start an LFG group of my own to not deal with this, before anyone else says “just start your own group without required comms!”, but I like spending queues working in the aim trainer or responding to more relevant/important messages (or reporting people blatantly breaking rules in LFG, looking at you, account sellers) than having to micromanage the system.

Even so, even if this wasn’t a personal grievance, it’s still just…baffling? It’s baffling. Why do you think you need comms down here. Absolutely anyone Plat+ will tell you that you don’t need comms until at least that rank, maybe higher. Awareness will get you a hell of a lot farther, believe me.

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…What’s wrong with people wanting to make a stack that they can actually communicate with? If you don’t like it you don’t gotta join ya know

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It annoys me when there are groups that have no indication of requiring mics (i.e. they say “X range to Y range comp”, usually silver, since that’s where I am on all roles but DPS, nothing else), but then kick you for not having comms.

Nevermind the fact that again, comms don’t matter in bronze/silver.

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imagine ow as a math problem…
1 + 2 = 3

1 = no comms
2= awareness
1+0=1 therefore you are receiving less value by negating one simple factor
2+0=2 therefore you are receiving less value by negating one simple factor

now, if you add them together…
1+2=3 you gain more value than either one on their own…

i honestly cannot make it more simple than that

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Except the comms in bronze/silver are not useful and serve as more of a distraction than any kind of aid and are in fact worth negative value.

I don’t know how to make it any more simple than that.

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or dont accept any help thats fine. its not my sr.

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Spoken like someone who has never been that low before and doesn’t know what the gameplay is like.

Comms don’t work in Bronze/Silver. Comms work for high-rank players. Not low-rank ones.

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ahh yes, since i am pleb i absolutely cannot afford to buy a bronze account and then climb playing genji only.

so i guess in your world i dont have any xp in that area…

but i live in the real world.

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So you’re a smurf and literally part of the problem down there, congratulations? You act like this is some kind of gotcha. It isn’t.

For the average bronze/silver player, aka someone actually deserving to be down there, aka not a smurf, aka not you, comms are absolutely worthless. Players need to focus on their own awareness, without the extra feedback, and only then can they learn to use feedback and interpret it.

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you know what worked for me…communicating. its amazing what people will do when someone takes charge, most people feed off it, and it creates better synergy and friendlier environment.

but what do i know, im just an apparent smurf.

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You literally just admitted to it.

And again. Communicating doesn’t work down there. Even if people wanted to follow instruction, they physically. Cannot. That is why they are in bronze/silver. The mechanics are bad. The awareness is bad.

You can tell an Ashe to focus down Pharah, but that doesn’t mean she can.

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have you tried doing it yourself?

killing pharah that is

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i suggest you look up the meaning of apparent.

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fax bro. u dont need know what I play. All u need to know is I’ll dominate

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Yes, frequently, because the whole point of being stuck down there is that you have to do the jobs of five other people in addition to your own. Including when I’m on tank (and not a tank that’s well-equipped to deal with her, at that), and should be, you know, tanking.

At any rate, climbing and how to do so, isn’t the point of this thread. The point is people in LFG enforcing comms when they either do not say they want comms, or to their own detriment, in general, because they’d rather have someone sitting there listening to whatever blather they’re spewing instead of focusing on the game and gameplay.

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alright bro, whatever you say, keep making excuses.

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If you don’t want to work together as a team with a pre made, then why even bother joining them?

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For solo queue you are probably right. But for when in a group it is highly likely you will be placed against another group. Most groups are running comms and your group will be at a big disadvantage.

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I do want to work with them. I want to work with them by playing with them. However, again, there are some groups that make no indication of requiring comms in their LFG title (not “mics required/voice/etc.” in the title, nor do they have the little microphone symbol, either). And you don’t find out until you join the group and then they just immediately kick you back out. Which is irritating.

And again, this is bronze/silver. Comms still have no value in bronze/silver. I’ve played with groups that have comms and lost miserably (such as the time I out-damaged a BASTION in 2-2-2), and plenty of times played without comms and won. If anything, I find the latter to be better, the only reason I even have auto-join voice chat enabled is to keep people from throwing a general hissyfit, especially since I have all volume and chats turned off to focus better on what’s going on around me and what I can do.

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Maybe your comms specifically are just impossible to follow.

The ability of making calls is scalar. It can be very bad, so much so that they contribute negative value, or they can be incredibly good.

Why are low ranked players so quick to conclude that it’s everyone else and never yourself?

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