This comp is literally just meta from it’s sheer inability to die. THIS SHOULDN’T EXIST.
It’s not even about dive anymore, it’s used 24/7. Ram? Juno brig. JQ? Juno brig. Rein? Juno brig. Dva? Juno brig. Monkey? Juno brig. Doom? Juno brig. Sigma? Juno brig.
Over 75% of my comp games should not be going against and having the same comp on my team. I have never in my time of playing overwatch seen a support composition be played THIS often, I am dead serious when I say it’s over 75% of my games. You straight up can’t contest this backline if they are even mildly competent (so no I’m not speaking about low elo, I apologize).
Juno’s weakness is supposed to be her lack of self sustain. So then imagine trying to kill a flying bat moving at mach 30, getting a constant 65hp/s from brig, and then even if you try to go for brig juno has one of the highest hps in the game and can speed ring the brig if need be, while the brig sits there with armor, a shield, and CC. The largest weakness of juno is just immediately irradicated.
The counterplay to this backline is literally “one / two tap them” because it’s THAT uncontestable otherwise and the healing is so damn high that even with dps passives applied it still feels like they are just healing everything.
(also side question: Is brig armor still broken during rally?)
Which btw people said it wouldn’t happen but it feels like Juno has completely kicked lucio out of the game. People have realized, you don’t need constant speed you just need the initial burst and the bit left over to engage… so now you can just use speed ring as a replacement while getting better damage, better healing, just minus the self heal. And you don’t have to choose between speed and healing, you can just do both. AND damage at the same time with missiles.
Her dmg is weak. Cant win any 1v1.
Her healing is limited
Her utility is restrictive and low impact
Much rather have ana or kiri 9/10 times who get guaranteed value than hoping a speed ring gets value. Too many games speed ring sits there and goes ignored because the tank wants to sit in choke and not run forward.
Definitely is not. Her primary fire does good damage along with her lock ons that are guaranteed 85.
Her primary fire has one of the highest HPS in the game AND she has a multi heal burst option with range, less restrictions than most multi targeted healing options, and guarantees 100+ hp healed.
What are you talking about? If anything her healing is one of the BIGGEST strong points, she’s a stat monster.
Yes that’s why I’m talking about the relevant elo where players know what they are doing.
No. First actually.
But if you think a backline that’s borderline unkillable and is meta for that very reason to the point where I’m seeing it the most I’ve ever seen any comp get played ever, is perfectly okay, then sure man!
What rank do you all play in? As someone in plat I have never seen this “Juno/Brig meta” people speak about. Neither Juno nor Brig are played often and I see mostly something like Mercy, Moira, Kiriko, Ana and Bap.
I would think this meta stuff is mainly relevant for like the top 5% of players and I seriously doubt that so many are in that rank, that are complaining about Juno or Brig…
Well… thats in general a problem in higher ranks: the pressure to only play meta heroes.
Good luck, because neither of those heroes are broken and rather just work well together. If you nerf either of them, they become trashpicks for like 70% of the playerbase.
Not even close, I’ve never seen a support comp get played this often.
If there’s anything we learned about overwatch. If a combination of two heroes is broken / oppressive… you nerf the two heroes regardless otherwise nothing will ever change.