Every damn tier list I’ve seen shows this and you don’t even need a tier list to show you, like duh shes still broke like what? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a GM to tell you this
Reins also in that category as well he definitely needs changes as also some hard nerfs.
Remember people multiple people of the same role or different roles can be buffed or nerfed in 1 patch, it’s time to take some people into the office.
Rein and dva are fun tanks. I’m glad they are really good. Better than seeing Orisa hog all the time 
Strangely enough I’ve never actually like… like struggled with hog even if we don’t have an ana…
Rein being in every match - i sleep
Dva being in every match - the end of the world
2 heros can be nerfed in 1 patch yes.
Waiting for rein nerf since OW1.
I rarely have problem with dva
learn to play her counters
whenever enemy team tank plays dva their enire team gets wiped and enemy dva immediately switch to differernt hero
This aint working for GM/champions what you expect the rest of us to do?
Who care barely get our teams to get off freaking Pharah into triple hitscan.
it’s working against top 1 asia server dva
i watched his dva guide and he complains about this hero
The top 0.000000001% of players are able to work togheter to counter dva.
Hmmm intresting I must research this more.
Also I never knew dva would have this many defenders even in her most broken state? I’m not sure like why tho Im not sure exactly what lengths people will go to justify there mains.
I main brig and crushing dva every match
ty Flats for crying how Rein is always weak
keep it up man
/s
Yeah, he definitely keeps the fuel burning but Rein is also a Blizzard favorite even before that.
oh definitely with how beloved he was with Zar, it’s a no brainer he is their poster boy for tank
Or the opposite. Won’t get onto hitscan versus Pharah. WE DON’T NEED A MEI.
Maybe dva will just be one of those forum heros I dont engage with all of this is just more of a thought experiment.
Because like shes clears broken right now there’s no real like… discussion I can see like sure I can do the usual forum argument and all that but it realllllly dosen’t seem worth it.
Same with rein.
Another way to gauge a hero is how they play into there non counters, and when you just completely eviscerate the opposition and you legitimately can’t be stopped UNLEES theres a counter if not multiple yeaah there’s a problem.
“starts hearing the sound of mechanical hooves”:
are you expecting to have even fight as junkrat against pharah?
the game is about playing smart
use every tools that are given
switching hero is one of those
There is a literal direct limit to how far that should go.
The counter thing not the playing Smart thing.
might as well make every hero the same then