Yep, doom definitely needs this nerf everyone asked for!

(Nobody asked for it)

Anyway, now can you guys come up with literally any meaningful change to any ability that ISN’T punch.

I swear the dev team has some strange obsession with rocket punch it isn’t even funny. So far when it comes to tank doomfist, 99% of the changes he has received are either directly to rocket punch, or indirectly changing the punch bot playstyle.

Like… SLAM EXISTS. BLOCK IS STILL TERRIBLE. METEOR STRIKE IS STILL THE WORST ULT IN THE GAME.

PLEASE.

Actually IMPROVE the hero in other aspects instead of making an otherwise very hard to play hero and very complicated hero, super one dimensional by making him have to overly rely on ONE ability constantly.

It is insane how there can be an ABILITY based hero, who solely relies on NOTHING but his abilities, but somehow only has ONE useful ability.

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Doom has been the second most powerful tank in game for months now. They’re nerfing support abilities (many of which are doom’s counters).

Why on earth wouldn’t doom get a small nerf to compensate?

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Where does this come from? Who came up with this lunacy? Was it Chipsa?

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He isn’t. Especially when the entire meta has consisted of nothing but doom counters for damn near 6 months at this point lmao

They aren’t nerfing them though.

Cooldown nerfs don’t change how busted support abilities are, they just can’t spam them as much. These support nerfs do literal air.

Meteor strike is garbage, I’m not boutta have people all of a sudden act like meteor strike is anything above the worst ult in the game. It is terrible, it has BEEN terrible, and knowing the balance team, it will stay terrible.

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He’s been the second (MAYBE third) most powerful tank for a few seasons (at high elos at least). I am convinced doom OTPs whine more than mercy mains at this point.

And so you’re aware, you can track enemy cooldowns. Knowing that Ana has an extra two seconds before she can use sleep on you lets you get a kill. You’ll figure the whole ‘keeping track of cooldowns’ thing out one day.

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He literally hasn’t lmfao idk what you want me to tell you. He simply hasn’t. The meta has consisted of nothing but doom counters for months.

Buddy.

The cooldowns mean nothing when all it takes is ONE use of them to dog walk everything in the game.

There is no “waiting” for ana sleep cooldown, when she SPECIFICALLY holds the ability for flankers / dive tanks.

Support abilities don’t have a cooldown issues, supports have an overly bloated, overbuffed, stuffed with garbage kits issue.

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Why are you diving alone? Play with your team. She can only sleep one of you.

This is why no one likes doom players on their team. They stay out of comms, don’t coordinate dives, then complain when something easily counterable like sleep or lamp get them killed.

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51%+ winrate at every rank, doesnt look like Doom is doing too bad

Blocking with overhealth increases empower rate.

Slam and Meteor can be empowered.

Empowered abilities grant more overhealth.

Perfectly balanced.

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It is ladder play ranked LMFAO

This game does not have coordination, trying to balance the game around it HAVING it, is stupid.

I’m always in comms, people NEVER speak. Literally EVERYONE knows this in GM, and it has been a common complaint. No one ever talks.

If you wanna say he’s good, perfectly fine with that. I’m saying he’s boring, and is being made super one dimensional and hard focused on ONLY punchbotting, for zero reason.

Dive heroes should be borderline unplayable without coordination. If your team isn’t diving with you, swap off doom.

Yes, you should be punished if you’re diving solo in a team game. If you’re GM, I’m in the same games as you, and doom is already one of the strongest tanks in the game. Stop whining because of a small nerf. Go play monkey or ball for a bit if you want to see what actual pain on dive feels like.

Doom… IS WORSE ???

Like what “Go play ball or monkey to know what real dive pain is” are you serious?

Monkey was THE meta tank for like 2 seasons straight???

Ball was meta for a season???

Doom has never even BEEN meta. At most, he was 2nd strongest when he got buffed back in season 2, but just like now it literally means nothing when the meta / meta tanks are DOOM COUNTERS.

Hog was meta back in season 2, and orisa has been meta recently (along with a sprinkle of sigma).

And if you aren’t able to play an entire hero in the game because people refuse to dive and coordinate! That’s probably an issue that needs fixing! Like letting the hero be able to play the game and get value WITHOUT team help!

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Doom has been the second or third best tank in the game for the last few seasons. What planet do you live on?

Ball and monkey are among the worst tanks in the game right now.

Doom is not the second best tank. He is almost the worst.

Maybe some Doom 1tp can farm a backline, but that doesn’t mean anything when almost everyone can’t do anything with him.

Doom.

Isn’t.

Good.

And I’ll tell you what I told the other guy.

If you want to think and argue that he’s top 3, even META. That’s perfectly fine, I have issues with how the balance team balances this hero. They completely ignore every aspect of his kit that isn’t named rocket punch.

His punchbotting playstyle is the ONLY thing that gets better or worse, meanwhile every other ability or playstyle has been dormant since… basically his conception as a hero. ESPECIALLY in the move to tank, damn near every change either directly nerfs / buffs rocket punch, or indirectly nerfs / buffs punch botting.

The hero is one of the top 3 hardest heroes to play in the game, and he’s being reduced to a one dimensional trash pile who gets zero value if the enemy team simply doesn’t shoot his block and gives him empowered punch. It’s BORING.

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Not even close. Doomfist has a high pick and win rate. Hog is miles and miles worse.

Unless they released pick rates and winrates officially from blizzard. You quite genuinely do not know what his stats are.

And if you are using overbuff? Let’s stop doing that.

People asked for Doom changes. His mobility and CC was overwhelming. Like it or not, he needed something.

Just feels way worse because Ana again went untouched despite controlling the meta game for 3 years now.

Mobility that’s easily countered by the meta heroes right now?

CC that’s easily countered by the meta heroes right now?

The hero that is apparently oh so good, but then you look at the meta heroes and quickly realize… almost ALL of them counter doomfist in some manner???

This idea that doom is somehow good all of a sudden, is just plain dumb, but if you want to think he is. More power to you, he’s boring to play and to play against, and it’s all because of the balance team’s incompetence.

Constant changes to the boring part of his kit while ignoring everything else the hero has.

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Oh darn, you’re right. He is the second most picked tank.

I thought it was still the same case as a season ago.